I can't save EQ on midi

[Daibang]

Hello there.I want to save my EQ on snare but when I put EQ and save it in sequencer it really didn't save. I mean it shows my EQ on sequencer but in song play mode it shows like I didn't put EQ and saved.Any ideas?

[tacman7]

Midi doesn't have an EQ message so it couldn't save it in the sequencer.

On the yamaha keyboards you could save your mix settings, not sure if you can do that with korg.

[Daibang]

By message you mean Control inside midi?
Well all I want to do is put EQ in track controls (Sequencer mode--->menu--->Track controls--->Drum mode) I don't think that EQ ctrl is required unless I don't understand something

[tacman7]

Midi is a protocol (set of rules) created for musical instruments in 1983.

It uses messages to communicate what a device should do.

So the pa600 uses midi in it's sequencer to store information.

Midi is not sound though it's just instructions. Like make a sound like a violin and play this note for this long. etc.

So how the voices are made and what EQ settings are outside the realm of midi. That's up to Korg and how they made the PA.

You need to dig into the manual and see how it saves sound settings.

[Reuben]

Just tried this on my pa3x and it saved EQ correctly. I assume similar operating system on Pa600/300.
What I did notice was that the EQ stays on zero until you press play. Then it adjusts to your saved setting.

[siebenhirter]

.. I want to save my EQ on snare but when I put EQ and save it in sequencer it really didn't save. I mean it shows my EQ on sequencer but in song play mode it shows like I didn't put EQ and saved.

Values of Equalizer ore no Midi-Events within a sequence but settings of equalizer, separately stored for each track of songs (SMF) within Pa-Keyboards sequenzer. In songplay these settings of equalizer are used to set equalizer values for each track as read from SMFs.

Each time you create or rewrite a SMF with a Pa-Keyboard-sequencer there SMF get data written into SysEx Header for controlling tracks, EQ and effects etc. Data also are recognized and evaluated, when received via MIDI IN jack during playback, but does not if receiving these data via USB in some models like Pa500.

For controlling EQUALIZER you will find one separate SysEx string for each track in SMF with the following format:
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 00 00 00 01 00 20 02 6E 03 01 04 00 05 00 5A F7
07th Byte: Trim Status: x00 = default, x01 = input trim equal 99
08th Byte: String Type: x10 = Equalizer (x00 = C effect, x01 = D effect, effect x02 = A, B = effect x03, x05 = track, x08 – Drumfamily-Volumes..)
10th Byte: Track Number: x00 - X0F = trace 1-16
12th Byte: bypass state: x00 = default = (no bypass), x01 bypass
14th Byte: Trim value: x00 = default (99), x1d = x7F to 0-98
15th Byte: equalizer plus-minus KZ: x00, x02, x08, x0a, x20, x22, x28, x2a (8 values possible)
x00 - byte 17 has positive value / byte 19 has positive value / byte 21 has positive value (zero is considered a positive value)
x02 - pos / pos / neg, x08 - pos / neg / pos; x0a - pos / neg / neg; x20 - neg / pos / pos;
x22 - neg / pos / neg, x28 - neg / neg / pos; x2a - all neg
17th Byte: Gain Low: negative values x5C to x7f (-18.0 dB to -0.5 dB) / positive values of x00 to x24 (0.0 dB to +18.0 dB)
19th Byte: Gain Med: ditto
21st Byte: High Gain: ditto
*
Example abstract from a smf header regarding Eq of KORG:
[start sysexlist]
F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7; Turn General MIDI System On
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 05 00 41 01 01 01 01 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 00 01 01 01 01 F7; Manufactor Korg (42) = not documented track status
...
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 08 00 09 00 01 7F 7F 7F 00 02 03 7F 05 00 04 7F 7F 7F 06 07 7F F7; Manufactor Korg (42) not documented NA
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 08 00 09 00 w1 01 w2 00 02 w3 03 w4 04 w5 05 00 w6 06 w7 07 w8 F7; Drumvolumes Track-Controls (lt figarro)
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 40 F7; Master Coarse Tuning, val = 64
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 5A F7; Manufactor Korg (42) not documented EQUALIZER TRACK 1
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 01 00 00 01 00 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 5A F7; Manufactor Korg (42) not documented EQUALIZER TRACK 2
...
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 0E 00 00 01 00 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 5A F7; Manufactor Korg (42) not documented EQUALIZER TRACK 15
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 0F 00 00 01 00 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 5A F7; Manufactor Korg (42) not documented EQUALIZER TRACK 16
...
[end sysexlist]

.. notice was that the EQ stays on zero until you press play. Then it adjusts to your saved setting.

Player is reading/using initial song-settings from Globals, but after starting in case of SMFs written with Pa-sequencer it uses SysEx header of SMF. If you try to insert different SysEx headers (or some few sentences of SysExs) these in SMFs existing sysexs are used.

In case erasing sysex header of an SMF completely, the player is using song settings stored in globals of a Pa-Keyboard.