BUG on OS V.3 Next: NOT ENOUGH MEMORY FOR PCM SAMPLES

[bad_santa]

Although since the update to V3 we have the possibility to load more samples, we were happy too early.

If I try with enough free space on my PA4X OS V3 Next to load a user sound bank I get the message: "Load sound fails: NOT ENOUGH MEMORY FOR PCM SAMPLES"

If I then load another User Sound Bank without freeing up any additional memory it works.

I thought it was due to the corrupted file, but if I delete the RAM and try to load this bank again, it works. The error message then appears when trying to load another bank.

[bad_santa]

Here I have a video of another user linked, which shows the same problems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRedseCd1Y

[ebuzer52]

Here I have a video of another user linked, which shows the same problems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRedseCd1Y

i loaded sample up to 16295. after 16295 it said the same warninin. no memory.

[bad_santa]

if someone knows, wether it is after NEXT UPDATE v 3.1.0 the available amount of samples still at ca. 16.300 ?

We have 128 places pro bank and 6 Usersounds banks and 3 User DK Banks. If you load for example ca. 80 samples for 1 user sound or DK programm.
So we would need 128*(6+3)*80 = 92.160 samples!

16.300 samples are needed only for 1.5 Bank.

if you need only 40 samles per sound, then would 16.300 samples suffice only for 3 Banks of User Sounds...

It is inpossible to use 3GB Sample Ram with only 16.000 samples

[karmathanever]

That's not good for you.

Could you try V3.1 and see if the issue still remains?

Some undocumented fixes have been done....

Cheers

Pete

[AntonySharmman]

If I try with enough free space on my PA4X OS V3 Next to load a user sound bank I get the message: "Load sound fails: NOT ENOUGH MEMORY FOR PCM SAMPLES"
If I then load another User Sound Bank without freeing up any additional memory it works.

- This message has also an additional info "samples must be truncated" , and happens if you're trying to load samples with bigger size than the allowed by specs.
- Pa3X OS could support a little bigger samples size than Pa4X !
- If you load only drum/percussion loops in Pa4X using time sliced function (or externally edited) , then you can easily run out of 16.256 max samples positions
and preload buffer size of 300Mb rather than samples physical Ram space of 1500Mb.
For instance , a time sliced percussion wav of 4 bars will consume an average of 80 positions of samples , so 16000 slots /80 samples = 200
time sliced sounds maximum for Pa4X sampling interface ... a full waste of such a superior sampler with less than 200Mb samples size !
- 2000 samples of 1Mb size will consume 2Gb of samples Ram space , so the average 16000 samples positions is very decent for sound developing of
a Pro SET of 3GB compressed.
- Also all of you , bear in mind that compression in OS 3 is not exactly 50% of samples size but rather close to 54% in an average SET , so the compression
limit of max samples is actually 2777 Mb.
Time sliced function is an auxiliary interface in a sampler and not meant to be used as primary source for all your samples resources !
IMO , arranger users must use midi events with real percussion / drum samples and not time sliced / naturally played drum samples.


Hope this helps

[mehranmusic]

NOT ENOUGH MEMORY PROBLEM