Best way to learn?
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Best way to learn?
I have looked at lots of ways to try to learn my kronos. Has anyone had good success with any particular tutorial? I am willing to put in the time. My notes...
#1 7 hours, $149, no sample videos - hard to know if this is a good idea - will look for reviews. German accent presenter available in german or english.
https://www.sounth.de/korg-kronos-tutorial/
#2 tutorial - free, produced by Korg, this 3rd party website just organized it. Doesn't "teach" as much as cover all the features. Watched a bit.
https://www.kronoshaven.com/tutorials-korg-kronos/
Korg free tutorial, similar, newer version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Xkfi58w6Y
#2A Kronos PART 1 tutorial - free, produced by Korg ... each end goes to next PART. Newer than #2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Xkfi58w6Y&t=122s
#3 Paid tutorial - has 101 (features and controls) and 201 (implementation) levels. Seems more like teaching. Watched 5 free videos. Better.
https://macprovideo.com/video/kronos-20 ... e-overview
costs $144/year (yearly) or $25/mo. Lots of related cool stuff, including a bottomless pit of Logic tutorials.
#1 7 hours, $149, no sample videos - hard to know if this is a good idea - will look for reviews. German accent presenter available in german or english.
https://www.sounth.de/korg-kronos-tutorial/
#2 tutorial - free, produced by Korg, this 3rd party website just organized it. Doesn't "teach" as much as cover all the features. Watched a bit.
https://www.kronoshaven.com/tutorials-korg-kronos/
Korg free tutorial, similar, newer version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Xkfi58w6Y
#2A Kronos PART 1 tutorial - free, produced by Korg ... each end goes to next PART. Newer than #2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Xkfi58w6Y&t=122s
#3 Paid tutorial - has 101 (features and controls) and 201 (implementation) levels. Seems more like teaching. Watched 5 free videos. Better.
https://macprovideo.com/video/kronos-20 ... e-overview
costs $144/year (yearly) or $25/mo. Lots of related cool stuff, including a bottomless pit of Logic tutorials.
If you’re looking for a fast track to learn your Kronos, you might be disappointed. I played a Triton for about 20 years, and that was very helpful transitioning to the Kronos. I would suggest watching the Korg videos (I’ve watched them many times) plus other YouTube videos. It’s not something you will master overnight, I’m still learning and I’m five years into it. Hang in there, you’ll love it.
Kronos2-61..(2) Triton Classic, Nord Stage 2, Previously owned lots of other gear dating back to the 70’s.
Start with easy stuff. The six Korg videos should get you started and curious. I personally emphasize to learn the Disk mode early, so you learn how to save your stuff right from the beginning. Do not try to create perfect programs or combis at first. Try something simple that you want to create in a prog or combi, then save it. Then from there, add other things to it, save it again, etc.
You will do mistakes and you will have to learn how to save your stuff correctly. Before you feel at ease with saving, again, remember you might lose stuff. The best way to learn IMHO is trial and error and is worth a thousand videos. The onboard help is also very useful. After a while, anything becomes easier. Leave the complicated stuff for later, like how to master the MOD-7 or even the STR-1 engine. The SGX-2, EP-1 and CX-3 engines are not very complicated and easy to learn in a few weeks. For the synth engines, go gradually with the PolySix and MS-20 if you like their modular style. The AL-1 then comes next and offers incredible possibilities. It's my personal favorite on the Kronos for synth sounds.
I really like the Sampling mode too. Here too, learn early how to save your stuff correctly, before attempting anything complex.
You will do mistakes and you will have to learn how to save your stuff correctly. Before you feel at ease with saving, again, remember you might lose stuff. The best way to learn IMHO is trial and error and is worth a thousand videos. The onboard help is also very useful. After a while, anything becomes easier. Leave the complicated stuff for later, like how to master the MOD-7 or even the STR-1 engine. The SGX-2, EP-1 and CX-3 engines are not very complicated and easy to learn in a few weeks. For the synth engines, go gradually with the PolySix and MS-20 if you like their modular style. The AL-1 then comes next and offers incredible possibilities. It's my personal favorite on the Kronos for synth sounds.
I really like the Sampling mode too. Here too, learn early how to save your stuff correctly, before attempting anything complex.
I've got a few tutorials about the most used Kronos functions. They're free and won't take too much of your time.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... pM_EHGPfUP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... pM_EHGPfUP
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Each of Kronos user finds its own method.
As I often say, I've begun not to be overwhelmed by the huge possibilities of the Kronos by considering it not as a single keyboard, but as a complete studio with all its gear :
- Instruments (All the different engines, drums, percussions, ....)
- Voice mics....
- Effects units
- Mixing console
- Samplers
- etc
Starting from that point, when I start Kronos on, I wonder what kind of job I want to do : do I want to do sound design (and so what kind of sound I want to achieve), do I want to play piano, do I want to look for a special sound, do I want to record a session, and so on.
And so I focalise my attention to the right Kronos section. If not, it's easy to get lost !
Then, suppose I want to do something but I don't know how to do, first I open the Parameter Guide, then, I'm looking for a Youtube tuto upon that particular subject. There are some very good tutos, done by very kind Korg Forums' friends (as Qui robinez, Mike Conway, Charles Ferraro, and many others, we got some good tutos in french (Le Compte de Kronoscopie, Coyote14, and so on). I know there are some in spanish language too.
All in all, I just wanted to tell you is that mastering Kronos requires a method, whatever it be, and it takes time, for sure. Don't try to master it for one hour !!
As I often say, I've begun not to be overwhelmed by the huge possibilities of the Kronos by considering it not as a single keyboard, but as a complete studio with all its gear :
- Instruments (All the different engines, drums, percussions, ....)
- Voice mics....
- Effects units
- Mixing console
- Samplers
- etc
Starting from that point, when I start Kronos on, I wonder what kind of job I want to do : do I want to do sound design (and so what kind of sound I want to achieve), do I want to play piano, do I want to look for a special sound, do I want to record a session, and so on.
And so I focalise my attention to the right Kronos section. If not, it's easy to get lost !
Then, suppose I want to do something but I don't know how to do, first I open the Parameter Guide, then, I'm looking for a Youtube tuto upon that particular subject. There are some very good tutos, done by very kind Korg Forums' friends (as Qui robinez, Mike Conway, Charles Ferraro, and many others, we got some good tutos in french (Le Compte de Kronoscopie, Coyote14, and so on). I know there are some in spanish language too.
All in all, I just wanted to tell you is that mastering Kronos requires a method, whatever it be, and it takes time, for sure. Don't try to master it for one hour !!
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Great stuff. Interesting, no one recommended the paid tutorials. KK - I like the advice to jump to disk mode. I'm going to allot a time slot (30-60 min) each day and work my way thru some program of Kronos video learning.
If anyone really likes one of the paid courses more than the Korg free ones or the quickstart guide, let me hear about it.
Thanks!
If anyone really likes one of the paid courses more than the Korg free ones or the quickstart guide, let me hear about it.
Thanks!
I can’t imagine learning Kronos without doing it around a music project that starts in Combi mode.
Combi mode can take you back to Program mode or move you into Sequencer mode, so combi is a good middle ground for the synth workstation aspect of it.
I select my favorite programs for layering in Combi’s and i end up copying them to an empty program bank for quick isolated location where i can edit without the originals being changed. Also i end up in sampling to create my own sounds that end up being programs that go into Combi’s.
Then i stack up combi’s which end up taking me to Global mode for various settings.
Then if i like what i have, i may decide to record it in Sequencer. The combi simply writes into Sequencer via a menu command or using button shortcuts on the surface panel.
And at the end of the music project session, i need to use disk mode for saving any songs, or new PCG arrangements for the music project
That is the core of my workflow. I then moved to external devices and midi+audio routing. I now incorporate external devices into all my combi’s.
Everything else about Kronos is the flexibility it has across various control modes as a controller. From karma control mode to tone adjust mode, and then configuring what controls do what. Control setup is the real wild ride where it happens in Global mode, in Program mode, Combi mode and Sequencer mode. And not just in controller setup page but in AMS, D-MOD for FX control, and Karma midi control options.
Most everything is integrated but Karma can seem like its own contraption working out of its own extensive unique world of workings.
AMS is complicated when it comes to tracking them down in preset programs and knowing what they are doing.
Sequencer mode has RPPR on the midi side, and goes well with drum track projects but can be used for more than drum patterns.
I think learning around Music projects is the best way to learn Kronos, because the flexibility kronos offers can be really confusing if you don’t have a project or workflow to customize kronos into.
Kronos is such that two expert Kronos users could find themselves lost on each other’s rigs if they traded for a day. Because each rig would likely be so customized to the user’s individual working style over the control setup, maybe with varied bank and slot configurations, varied sound sets, varied global and setlist setups, and on and on.
You only ever learn your Kronos and what you set it up to be, and that only happens around the way you work and what music projects you do.
And a good portion of Kronos is not easily learned if you don’t have external devices to use to tap into Kronos EXT control features(where kronos is designed to also control external devices). I work two external devices at a time, with Kronos.
Combi mode can take you back to Program mode or move you into Sequencer mode, so combi is a good middle ground for the synth workstation aspect of it.
I select my favorite programs for layering in Combi’s and i end up copying them to an empty program bank for quick isolated location where i can edit without the originals being changed. Also i end up in sampling to create my own sounds that end up being programs that go into Combi’s.
Then i stack up combi’s which end up taking me to Global mode for various settings.
Then if i like what i have, i may decide to record it in Sequencer. The combi simply writes into Sequencer via a menu command or using button shortcuts on the surface panel.
And at the end of the music project session, i need to use disk mode for saving any songs, or new PCG arrangements for the music project
That is the core of my workflow. I then moved to external devices and midi+audio routing. I now incorporate external devices into all my combi’s.
Everything else about Kronos is the flexibility it has across various control modes as a controller. From karma control mode to tone adjust mode, and then configuring what controls do what. Control setup is the real wild ride where it happens in Global mode, in Program mode, Combi mode and Sequencer mode. And not just in controller setup page but in AMS, D-MOD for FX control, and Karma midi control options.
Most everything is integrated but Karma can seem like its own contraption working out of its own extensive unique world of workings.
AMS is complicated when it comes to tracking them down in preset programs and knowing what they are doing.
Sequencer mode has RPPR on the midi side, and goes well with drum track projects but can be used for more than drum patterns.
I think learning around Music projects is the best way to learn Kronos, because the flexibility kronos offers can be really confusing if you don’t have a project or workflow to customize kronos into.
Kronos is such that two expert Kronos users could find themselves lost on each other’s rigs if they traded for a day. Because each rig would likely be so customized to the user’s individual working style over the control setup, maybe with varied bank and slot configurations, varied sound sets, varied global and setlist setups, and on and on.
You only ever learn your Kronos and what you set it up to be, and that only happens around the way you work and what music projects you do.
And a good portion of Kronos is not easily learned if you don’t have external devices to use to tap into Kronos EXT control features(where kronos is designed to also control external devices). I work two external devices at a time, with Kronos.
Last edited by 19naia on Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I have purchased the Sudosonic Korg Kronos Tutorial for 69.90 USD.
For me it is a fast way to recapitulate things like sampling, multisampling etc.
Since 1975 I have started learning musical synthesis (subtractive, additive, granular, etc.), but the kronos is such a mighty machine that I was pressured to learn it in very small steps.
I have a hardcopy of the manual and the parameter guide is still my bible.
For me it is a fast way to recapitulate things like sampling, multisampling etc.
Since 1975 I have started learning musical synthesis (subtractive, additive, granular, etc.), but the kronos is such a mighty machine that I was pressured to learn it in very small steps.
I have a hardcopy of the manual and the parameter guide is still my bible.
Kronos 2 88, Roland AX-Synth, 2x Roland A-800 Pro, Behringer Vocoder VC340, Synton Vocoder, Neo Instruments Ventilator 2, Panda MIDI Beam, Joh.P.Andresen Harmonium, Studiologic SL990, Beyerdynamic DT770/880, FL Studio, Shure WH20, AKG WMS470, Shure SE535, Xenyx Control 1, U-Phoria UMC404HD, Visaton Monitor, Gig Performer, PreSonus Studio 26c, Macbook Pro