Doing It All

[Curt]

Hi people!

I'm a newbie to the synth world (long time piano player and even longer time guitarist) and just invested in an Extreme to be my "everything" sound palette tool. So far, I see that this was the best money I've ever spent!

My question is this: has anyone here completed an entire project using ONLY the TEX? No PC for editing, mixdown, or mastering. I'm talking about ALL of it - including In-track sampling of external instruments - on their Extreme? OK, and then exporting the final 2-track WAV to a PC for distribution!!!

I've about had it with the latency issues associated with PC-based recording. My PC is a monster (3GHz, 1GB DDR) dedicated audio machine with latency "set" at 4ms and I still find myself nudging each track as its recorded.

The type of music I compose could probably be accommodated nicely within the sequencer mode of the Triton (piano-based new age stuff, very Yanni or Michael Gettel sounding), my only concern is the sampling capacity of external instruments such as acoustic or electric guitars.

Someone here stated that the MAX size of any sample is 16MB: is this for a single sample, or ALL samples? And is this still true if the onboard RAM is expanded to 96MB? Isn't it possible to sample directly to my 1GB CF and bypass the restrictions of RAM altogether?

Lots of questions here, I know. But I want to do something amazing with this amazing new instrument I have. Let me know about your successes using only your TEX!!

Curt
Anyone?

[Curt]

I guess no one.

[allenblanks]

wish i could answer your question but i use my pc for everything, but love my triton ex .. it sure is a fine piece. What kind of soundcard do you have? i am suprised that you are having latency issues at 4ms! what software sequencer did or do you have? anyways i hope someone can answer your questions soon..

[JonSolo]

Well I have done a few tracks that were all TE, but I consider them as scratch pads for when I go back to my DAW to drop the final tracks.

Not to make this about latency but...

I cannot complain about latency. I am not sure why you are having the need to nudge tracks. I like tight music, but most audio software makes up for latency...and with minimal issues. You might just need to tweak your software a bit.

In reference to latency, technically speaking, it is a part of the real world. If I were playing a live piano with a band, my latency on a real piano is somewhere around 8-20ms depending on how hard I hit the keys and when in relation to the drummer and everyone else. Then it would take 20-50ms to be captured in someone's ear depending on how far away they are.

For the record, even hardware recorders suffer from a degree of latency. I read on the ProAudio website (somewhere a few years ago) that a guy measured an Otari 32 track input to output and came up with 8-10ms difference each time.

Just my thoughts.

Jon Solo

[Curt]

Thanks for your responses. I know of at least ONE pro level guy that created an entire song (several tunes, actually) entirely on his Korg. It's David Cabellero (or GNOMUSY). The reason I ask is that it MUST have been a demanded feature or why would they have gone to the extra expense of engineering in a 16-track sequencer?

The latency... ahh, yes. I haven't ALWAYS had problems with it. It's like it (my PC) knows that I'm thinking of dumping him so he acts out at me! I've even had it go so far as to be CLOCK ON for the first 30 seconds of a recording and then all of a sudden just lose its mind! Listening during playback it sounds like I immediately became drunk and cound no longer play in time!!

But this isn't a PC forum so enough about that. I just wanted to know if anyone had said "to hell with PCs" and created an entire project on their Triton.

Cheers,
Curt

[Gnomusy]

Hi all,

Yes, as you mention I did all songs on the reliable X3 in the first years of synthesising music, a keyboard that I still use nowadays. You can download the music at Soundclick (http://www.soundclick.com/gnomusy9404) in mp3, and the PCG SNG of some of my songs at my website (http://www.gnomusy.com)

Cheers
David

[Gargamel314]

Someone here stated that the MAX size of any sample is 16MB: is this for a single sample, or ALL samples? And is this still true if the onboard RAM is expanded to 96MB? Isn't it possible to sample directly to my 1GB CF and bypass the restrictions of RAM altogether?

This is true, the max size for any sample is 16MB. You can sample 6 samples no larger than 16MB each into each RAM bank. But you can also record anything straight to the CF card at any length. This makes the Triton EX a nifty make-shift hard-disk recorder. You just need to select the setting to save directly to the CF card. I've done this on occasion recording a group of my students singing when i realized I forgot to rig my computer to record them. The limitation on this, is you can't use the WAV file recorded in any sequence or as a sample. To play it back, you have to select the tab in MEDIA mode and it will load the WAV file pretty quickly and you just press SAMPLE START/STOP to begin playback.