Orrible sound break while changing sound

argentique · Post by **argentique** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:52 pm

I take the ball from Wolfgang1 to send to you a more specific question.
How do you avoid the sound break that you have while changing from a program/combi to another? With a very old keyboard if I keep the dumper pedal pressed and I change the sound, I keep the old sound till a new key pressure. I cannot believe this is not possible with the TR.
Any clue how to do it, maybe in the general settings?

Thanks in advance.
Regards.

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:10 pm

can't be done in combi mode (there's too many changes going at the same time - 8 programs, 3 FX - all have to be replaced)
program mode does that by default, however the FX get changed so the sound of the old program may get altered too.

your "very old keyboard" can do that because it's synthesis is probably very simple and there are no effect processors in it

Mustis · Post by **Mustis** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:42 pm

Some questions:

1- Should not KORG take notice that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that buys a TR or LE asks the same question ?

2- Should not KORG solve it ?

3- (Will I be banned from this forum by the people of Korg?

)

PS: Another one: Should'nt be the "classic" threads always on the top of the forum ?

Jako · Post by **Jako** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:11 pm

I've never considered the TR to be an instrument to play live with, for this purpose I would choose a Yamaha Tyros, or whatever (maybe except for i.e. piano sounds, which sound far better on a workstation like the TR).
I mostly use the TR to produce songs at home, not for playing live, except for playing single sounds in a band, not doing solo concerts...

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:21 pm

Mustis wrote:Some questions:

1- Should not KORG take notice that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that buys a TR or LE asks the same question ?

2- Should not KORG solve it ?

3- (Will I be banned from this forum by the people of Korg? )

PS: Another one: Should'nt be the "classic" threads always on the top of the forum ?

Guess what? It would require to double the processing power of the effects processor for the sole purpose of switching sounds. Does that make any sense?
BTW - I've been playing in a band for 4 years with only Triton LE and I've been switching combis with that "horrible" cut-off and guess what? No one even notices that.

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:35 pm

Voltan wrote:
Mustis wrote:Some questions:

1- Should not KORG take notice that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that buys a TR or LE asks the same question ?

2- Should not KORG solve it ?

3- (Will I be banned from this forum by the people of Korg? )

PS: Another one: Should'nt be the "classic" threads always on the top of the forum ?
Guess what? It would require to double the processing power of the effects processor for the sole purpose of switching sounds. Does that make any sense?
BTW - I've been playing in a band for 4 years with only Triton LE and I've been switching combis with that "horrible" cut-off and guess what? No one even notices that.

I just generally don't change sounds unless it's a transition in the song... which makes sense because why should a sound change mid wriff anyhow? Also, since you can split of the keyboard you can make half of it a sound you need now, and half a sound you need soon...

However, there are a couple strange things about the TR and LE that just don't make sense to me on Korg's part. Why couldn't it have come with Ram? I am sure they could have gotten a deal to put them in at less thatn a buck a piece... instead, every other thread on this forums is about "do I need ram, how do I install ram"?

Jako · Post by **Jako** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:56 pm

Fatalmasterpiece wrote:Also, since you can split of the keyboard you can make half of it a sound you need now, and half a sound you need soon..

speaking of splitting the keyboard:
When splitted the TR's keyboard to some different programms, some of them sound kinda 'cheap'.
That's because the TR has only got one insert effect, isn't it? Or am I missing something here?

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:59 pm

Jako wrote:
Fatalmasterpiece wrote:Also, since you can split of the keyboard you can make half of it a sound you need now, and half a sound you need soon..
speaking of splitting the keyboard:
When splitted the TR's keyboard to some different programms, some of them sound kinda 'cheap'.
That's because the TR has only got one insert effect, isn't it? Or am I missing something here?

i am not sure, I only have tried it in Combi mode. In this instance, it might sound different because instead of 8 patches you only have however you assign to that split.

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:37 pm

Jako wrote:speaking of splitting the keyboard:
When splitted the TR's keyboard to some different programms, some of them sound kinda 'cheap'.
That's because the TR has only got one insert effect, isn't it? Or am I missing something here?

Yeah, program's effects routing are not used in combi mode - you need to redesign the routing when making your own combis

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:32 pm

Could you elaborate? I want to make sure I am not messing something up when I use split and combi mode.

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:43 pm

well basically you have 2 MFX and one IFX
in program mode all of them are working with that one program (surprise

)
but when you want to use several programs in a combi (keyboard-split, velocity-split, layered, whatever) the problem is you still have only 2 MFX and 1 IFX so the effects set in program mode are just ignored (you get the program sounds as if all the effects where bypassed)
when making your own combi you need to decide which effects to use, which programs to route through the IFX and so on
It's easier to do on the "big" Tritons (classic, pro, studio, extreme) 'cause you get 5 IFX which really is too much for a single sound

the differences between IFX, MFX and TFX (Total Effect on OASYS and M3) have been discussed in another topic

Jako · Post by **Jako** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:54 pm

Thanks for the explanation, Voltan, I guess that means I have to get me a Triton, sooner or later...

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:48 am

I don't even know how to use effects in my TR... I never use them so I guess it sounds the same no matter what?

I spose it would be good to use them but isn't that kind of a crutch?

Jako · Post by **Jako** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:39 pm

In the factory-default programs and combis effects are already used automatically...

smstome · Post by **smstome** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:14 am

Jako wrote:Thanks for the explanation, Voltan, I guess that means I have to get me a Triton, sooner or later...

Even then you will have the same trouble while changing programe or combi.