Problems using drum patterns from the combi mode!

[JAMESUK]

Hi everyone,

Im having problems when copying drum patterns from the combi mode to the sequencer section where im trying to use these drum patterns to create songs. I dont know what im doing wrong but every time i try to record a track over this drum pattern ie the piano for instance the drum pattern itself disappears and sometimes the piano or the sound im using itself sounds horribly distorted!

When im copying these drum patterns intially it only gives me the option of copying from Track 1-8 or Track 9-16 does this mean that the drum pattern im copying from the combi mode will occupy either the first 8 tracks or tracks 9 to 16? And there fore i cannot record on these tracks if im building a song?

Does anyone know a simple way for me to copy the drum patterns from the combi mode into the sequencer section and then allow me to use these drum patterns as the basis of the songs i write?

Many thanks
James.

[pagey]

When In COMBI Mode press ENTER + Rec/Write

This will put the combi into sequencer mode along with all the IFX and every thing should sound the same as in combi mode.

Then add different instruments to the unused tracks to build your song

That should work unless I've miss read the Question

[JAMESUK]

Hi Pagey,

Thanks for that. Just some quick questions.

Which track or tracks does the copied drum pattern go into? Because when i try to add another track using piano for instance when i try playing it back the drum pattern/sound has disappeared. So i must be doing something wrong!

And i want to add the other tracks using the real time recording function.

Thanks
James.

[tritex4]

You can look at the Midi channels to see how they're set, from the sequencer's Trk Param. page.
It could be that two tracks share the same midi channel, as well as being routed to certain effects.

As Pagey said, you can setup a combination to record, which copies it's settings to the sequencer.
But, be aware that when using Korg's presets, you may have to change a few things to get the tracks to record the way you want.

Post the combination title and number, and maybe some of us can tell you what's happening with it.

[JAMESUK]

Hi Tritex4

I have just realised that what i want to really do is not copy the whole combination but just the drum pattern so i can build a song around these preset drum patterns/beats.

Is there a way of accessing the Preset drum patterns from the SEQ Page?

And how are these Preset drum patterns accessed anyway? As in The Voice Name list booklet that comes with the Korg Triton extreme i can see Preset patterns for different styles of music for instance Rnb, Pop & Ballad, Jazz, Reggae, Country etc and there appears to be dozens of preset patterns available on the Korg Triton Extreme but when im in the SEQ page and i load the preset patterns via the Load Template song option it only appears to have 15 drum patterns to go with each template style??

Many thanks,
James.

[Korger]

Jamesuk,

I have been trying to "find" these drum patterns as well. Apparently there are around 150 of them and I do see them listed on the last page of the Voices booklet which came with the keyboard, but I have not been able to access or play them. Wondering if you've had any further insight?

Hi Tritex4

I have just realised that what i want to really do is not copy the whole combination but just the drum pattern so i can build a song around these preset drum patterns/beats.

Is there a way of accessing the Preset drum patterns from the SEQ Page?

And how are these Preset drum patterns accessed anyway? As in The Voice Name list booklet that comes with the Korg Triton extreme i can see Preset patterns for different styles of music for instance Rnb, Pop & Ballad, Jazz, Reggae, Country etc and there appears to be dozens of preset patterns available on the Korg Triton Extreme but when im in the SEQ page and i load the preset patterns via the Load Template song option it only appears to have 15 drum patterns to go with each template style??

Many thanks,
James.

[tritex4]

Korger,
Here's an easy way to select the preset patterns.

Patterns play best with their recommended drum kits.
At the back of the Voice Name List (VNL), you'll see that each pattern has a drum kit at the end of it's name.
If you choose a pattern with "Std", then choose drumkits A036 or B036.

1. On any sequencer track, select A036: Standard Kit.
2. Go to P6: Pattern/RPPR mode and the Pattern Edit tab should be already selected by default.
3. Make sure that the track is A036: Standard kit.
4. Change "User" to "Preset" and the first "Std" kit will appear.
5. Press START to hear the pattern.

To add the pattern to the track, from the drop down menu, select Copy To Track.

[Korger]

Thanks tritex4,

I am eager to try this as I have been frustrated in not being able to call up drum patterns.

Korger

[smstome]

Hi JamesUK

I Understand that you are looking for the drum pattern arpegiated in certain combi.

When you are in the specified combi mode check in which track are drum programs.

Go to arp setup page and see which arp (A/B) is assigned to that track .

Go to their corresponding Tabs and you will find the arpegiated preset pattern.

Now in seq mode assign the specified drum program to a track.
Setup the arp for this track as in combi.
Make sure the ARP BUTTON TURNED ON.
There you go..



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[Korger]

I used to be pretty good at figuring stuff like this out (mostly Yamaha gear, and years younger I guess!) but damn, this is frustrating!

This seems like such a SIMPLE thing to want to do:
1. Get a drum pattern running.
2. Select and use a voice to play along with the drum pattern.

So, I’ve finally found out where to find drum patterns (in Seq mode, P6, etc) -thanks to your reply...
But when I select a pattern, it also loads that kit onto the board….

Isn't there a simple way to play a drum pattern AND while it is running, select different voices to play along with the drums???
-frustrated in Canada

Korger,
Here's an easy way to select the preset patterns.

Patterns play best with their recommended drum kits.
At the back of the Voice Name List (VNL), you'll see that each pattern has a drum kit at the end of it's name.
If you choose a pattern with "Std", then choose drumkits A036 or B036.

1. On any sequencer track, select A036: Standard Kit.
2. Go to P6: Pattern/RPPR mode and the Pattern Edit tab should be already selected by default.
3. Make sure that the track is A036: Standard kit.
4. Change "User" to "Preset" and the first "Std" kit will appear.
5. Press START to hear the pattern.

To add the pattern to the track, from the drop down menu, select Copy To Track.

[jerrythek]

After you get your Drum Program and Preset Pattern copied into Track 1, and set that Track to loop the required number of bars, select Track 2. Make sure it is one a different MIDI channel than Track 1.

Now use the Select By Category box for Track 2 and select the type of sound you want. You can now play along with it.

Besides the correct MIDI channel issue, I wonder if you're always copying the sound with all of its effects, which will clash with the Drum Program. Is that part of your issue? If so we can focus on that next to help you more.

OK?

Jerry

[tritex4]

I also wonder if you're trying to set up voices on page 6 (RPPR).
Of course, that's not the page where you would want to play along with the sequence.
Jump to page 0 (sequencer main page) and you should have the drum pattern
copied to it's track. You can then select another track, press START and as
the drum track plays, you can play along with it.

Considering what Jerry mentioned and what I've posted here,
there really shouldn't be any difficulty in playing alongside the drum pattern.

If you want the pattern to run without being copied to the track, that's also possible,
but that's another tutorial.
Let's us know more, if you can't reach a solution.

[Korger]

Thanks Jerrythek and tritex4 for your quick replies,

Well, I think you answered my question, ie, is there a "simple" way...apparently not (although, once I get it, it'll probably seem simple...lets hope!). First off I'm not sure that I've "copied" anything to track 1 and for sure I haven't "looped" the pattern, etc. As for which MIDI channel...

After you get your Drum Program and Preset Pattern copied into Track 1, and set that Track to loop the required number of bars, select Track 2. Make sure it is one a different MIDI channel than Track 1.

Now use the Select By Category box for Track 2 and select the type of sound you want. You can now play along with it.

Besides the correct MIDI channel issue, I wonder if you're always copying the sound with all of its effects, which will clash with the Drum Program. Is that part of your issue? If so we can focus on that next to help you more.

OK?

Jerry

[Korger]

Thanks tritex4,

I have been using P6 in Seq mode, so that might explain some of my probs. I'm not even trying to record anything, I just want to jam with my bass player, along with a drum pattern loop, and me playing keys...

Thanks to your last post I have found the drum patterns (such as they are) but I have been unable to use them while playing piano, for example.

I also wonder if you're trying to do everything on page 6 (RPPR).
This is not the page where you want to try to play along with the sequence.
Jump to page 0 (sequencer main page) and you should have the drum pattern
copied to it's track. You can then select another track, press START and as
the drum track plays, you can play along with it.

Considering what Jerry mentioned and what I've posted here,
there really shouldn't be any difficulty in playing alongside the drum pattern.

If you want the pattern to run without being copied to the track, that's also possible,
but that's another tutorial.
Let's us know more, if you can't reach a solution.

[pagey]

I have been trying to "find" these drum patterns as well. Apparently there are around 150 of them and I do see them listed on the last page of the Voices booklet which came with the keyboard, but I have not been able to access or play them.

Go into sequencer mode and press the tab in the top right hand corner and select load song template
Press the >From tab and this is where you can select the 150 presets of pop/rock/reggae etc.
Put a tick in the copy pattern box and the next screen will let you choose all the variations of drum beat in each style.

Then simply press start on the sequencer and the drum beat will play back