MIDI track to AUDIO wav ? how to?

mozartella · Post by **mozartella** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:03 pm

I am reading the Oasys bible but could not find yet, the way to record a Wav format, a single Midi track in the Sequencer of the Oasys....

To mak it more clear..

Say, I am in sequencer mode and just made a song, eithers with Presets, or form a Combi, loaded into the sequencer....

I would like to know how, to, either RECORD say from Midi track 1, and duplicate it into a wav track in the sequencer audio part...when I would start the from Sequencer the REC/WRITE and START knob, and also, my Midi track would be set to BOTH....

ANd,

the nest one, If I recorded a Combi only in Midi mode, of maybe 8 tracks, and 4 modules altogether, then I would have saved the song, into song format and, also saved from the DISK to SMF format 1, could I REC 4 audio tracks at the time, from a SONG file or from a MIDI file?

I find out I could use the L and R output, but, I would very like to save each midi part into each audio tracks....

Thanks again for any help....

Anashwaran · Post by **Anashwaran** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:08 pm

Dear Mozartella,
Did you check Stephen's tutorials on this subject?
What I do is printing out the most important tutorials and I have them at hand everytime such a problem arises.
So here:
From Combi to Sequencer to CD http://karma-lab.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=154
On this page there are plenty of tutorials related to these problems
Hope that helps

This is maybe the best because you have first to make a wave-file before making a CD, no?
Anashwaran

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:49 pm

To make a WAV file:

*In Sequencer mode, select AUDIO IN/SAMPLING tab.

*From the dropdown menu, select BOUNCE ALL TRACKS TO DISK.

mozartella · Post by **mozartella** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:34 pm

Mike Conway wrote:To make a WAV file:

*In Sequencer mode, select AUDIO IN/SAMPLING tab.

*From the dropdown menu, select BOUNCE ALL TRACKS TO DISK.

thanks because this is a STRAIT answer, now Mike, can we bounce only one midi track to an audio wave? or, de we have to MUTE one at the time others midi track who are in the same song? if I would have say 12 midi tracks and would like to have 12 separates audio tracks , do we have to each time bounce only one track at the time? or, could we choose witch track to bounce or not?

thanks...Dear Mike, that could be a second Unoficial Oasys CD, more on t]somes details....I do like the one I have, but,if one day you would have more time to spend with the Oasys and make another video, that would be nice....

mozartella · Post by **mozartella** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:47 pm

Anashwaran wrote:Dear Mozartella,
Did you check Stephen's tutorials on this subject?
What I do is printing out the most important tutorials and I have them at hand everytime such a problem arises.
So here:
From Combi to Sequencer to CD http://karma-lab.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=154
On this page there are plenty of tutorials related to these problems
Hope that helps
This is maybe the best because you have first to make a wave-file before making a CD, no?
Anashwaran

very nice from you Anashwaran, but I went to look at it, of course, my memory is short, but, I like to bounce only certains tracks, by themself,

have a great day and thanks again

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:09 pm

For a single track, I believe you could just SOLO it, but I haven't tried. Perhaps, bring all other track levels down.

Sina172 · Post by **Sina172** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:51 pm

mozartella · Post by **mozartella** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:02 pm

Sina172 wrote:
Mike Conway wrote:For a single track, I believe you could just SOLO it, but I haven't tried.
That's what I do and it works like a charm every time.

Sina

Thanks Mike and Sina,

then ? we do not have a specific way to truly choose a midi track or more then one, we need each time to bounce per track...This is very long in deed.......

Sina172 · Post by **Sina172** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:21 pm

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:38 pm

mozartella wrote:
Sina172 wrote:
Mike Conway wrote:For a single track, I believe you could just SOLO it, but I haven't tried.
That's what I do and it works like a charm every time.

Sina
Thanks Mike and Sina,

then ? we do not have a specific way to truly choose a midi track or more then one, we need each time to bounce per track...This is very long in deed.......

If it's any consolation Logic, Cubase et al behave in the same way, when you bounce software instruments to audio

mozartella · Post by **mozartella** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:54 pm

Daz wrote: If it's any consolation Logic, Cubase et al behave in the same way, when you bounce software instruments to audio

CRY CRY CRY all of you, the big companies, Do we have to find a software like sorry,,,Midi to wav or MP3 converter?
that would be the funiest way to implement a small soft into GIANT like big sequencers softwares....

at least can we laugh or not?

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:08 pm

It's not all the big companies ... Ableton Live for example handles this and many other things remarkably easily. Very nicely written and well though out app ... presumably because unlike Logic, Cubase, Oasys, Motif (and many others) it is not so tied to code and paradigms from nearly a decade ago.

In Cubase and Logic, you do of course have the option of Freezing a track which does something very similar, and such a feature in the Oasys would be very welcome to folks using the sequencer I suspect.

Pilgrim · Post by **Pilgrim** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:18 am

Daz wrote:It's not all the big companies ... Ableton Live for example handles this and many other things remarkably easily. Very nicely written and well though out app ... presumably because unlike Logic, Cubase, Oasys, Motif (and many others) it is not so tied to code and paradigms from nearly a decade ago.

In Cubase and Logic, you do of course have the option of Freezing a track which does something very similar, and such a feature in the Oasys would be very welcome to folks using the sequencer I suspect.

Greetings Daz, Oli, etc.
I use LIVE! v6 (have since v2) and really like it. It is/was originally written for the "DJ" crowd to use "Live" and "fling" audio around the "Session View" with wild abandon.

MIDI in LIVE! is piano roll only, but very easy to use.
So far, LIVE! does not recognize SYSEX (ignors it, does not record it).

The "Arrangement" view is very conventional except for the LIVE "envelope stuff which lead the way for others to implement.

I still keep Sonar around to do more "mass editing" when needed, but using MIDI "clips" in LIVE" is great fun.
LIVE! now supports Track Freezing also.

I really do not mind the sequencer in the OASYS. . . it works great as a "play thru" and holds the OASYS setup well, while the note/play data is recorded elsewhere. (or in the OASYS and exported for editing).
Since only the notes are needed externally, editing is easy. No setup etc. to worry about messing up.

I know that MIDI can be a bit awkward for those who did not plow through it as some did pre '95 when it was all we had (could afford).

Fun all around. . . .
Pilgrim John

mozartella · Post by **mozartella** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:18 pm

OK, thanks Daz and pilgrim,

I learn 2 things...

what is the Freezing option, and for what it is good?

And, if Ableton never or not recognize, record any SYSEX, maybe we would have less troubles running a LIVE midi file into another sequencer, and, if needed we could perhaps add at the beginning of a Midi file, some simple messages, that each person running a different computer or midi hardware, who could open with no fuss, and truly play the file.....

need to give it a try...thanks

Pilgrim · Post by **Pilgrim** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:18 pm

mozartella wrote:OK, thanks Daz and pilgrim,

I learn 2 things...

what is the Freezing option, and for what it is good?

And, if Ableton never or not recognize, record any SYSEX, maybe we would have less troubles running a LIVE midi file into another sequencer, and, if needed we could perhaps add at the beginning of a Midi file, some simple messages, that each person running a different computer or midi hardware, who could open with no fuss, and truly play the file.....

need to give it a try...thanks

M,
Freezing is like Muting.
But, when you mute a track, it does not "sound" but does "play silently" so
that you can "un-mute" it while playing the song.

Freezing a Track does not "Play" the track.
You cannot "un-Freeze" in mid-song.

But, Freezing has NO CPU load.
Muting has CPU load because it plays silently.

Reason for "Freezing". . . no CPU load.

Most every DAW software does Freezing differently from
other DAW software.
They all think they have the "best way".

Ableton LIVE! is very powerful but hides the complexity from
the user. Makes it easier to use, really.

But, like all computer programs, the user must "get it" enough
to make it work for them.
Read, experiment, observe, make notes.
Repeat. . .

Do some music!

Do da Funk, Baby
Pilgrim

SYSEX Caution: some in-track SYSEX may be used to
play the track, so LIVE! not "doing" SYSEX would not do it.
""I see" said the Blind Man to the Deaf Woman, on the telephone."