Hi there,
I have Triton Extreeme and EMX 1. Is there any way how to synchnronize both machines via midi, say using MTC or smth like that? I want to run both machines simultaniously, without transmitting notes to each other etc...
Does anybody has any idea or experience with that?
Thanks!
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Extreme and EMX 1 hooked via midi - need some help!
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In general you can sync two TEX machines, so one plays only ½ the notes. This in effect does nothing else than doubble your polyphony.
I think you need to tell us a little more about exactly what you aim at here. Do you want the EMX 1 to control the TEX or opposite? do you want the TEX to sync the tempo with EMX1? Or maybee you want the TEX to control program changes on the EMX1... All this can be acompliched using MIDI messages, but the way you do it differs.
I think you need to tell us a little more about exactly what you aim at here. Do you want the EMX 1 to control the TEX or opposite? do you want the TEX to sync the tempo with EMX1? Or maybee you want the TEX to control program changes on the EMX1... All this can be acompliched using MIDI messages, but the way you do it differs.
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Thanks for reply! I`ll try to express myself - what I meant!
Well what I want is that both machines start and stop at one time (like master and slave), but I don`t want that master send midi messages (notes) to slave and tell what to play! I mean that slave should play what has been programmed on it. say EMX is master and plays beat and bass, and ESX plays looped and sliced sample only. But how to play this sample on ESX is not told by EMX but it`s just programmed as it wan`t hooked up via midi at all... If I`m correct, I`ve heard that Roland has kind of synchronization device that sends MTC and 808 and 303 machines are running simultaniously.
...well, I hope now you understand what I mean?! ...if not, let me know, will try once more!
Well what I want is that both machines start and stop at one time (like master and slave), but I don`t want that master send midi messages (notes) to slave and tell what to play! I mean that slave should play what has been programmed on it. say EMX is master and plays beat and bass, and ESX plays looped and sliced sample only. But how to play this sample on ESX is not told by EMX but it`s just programmed as it wan`t hooked up via midi at all... If I`m correct, I`ve heard that Roland has kind of synchronization device that sends MTC and 808 and 303 machines are running simultaniously.
...well, I hope now you understand what I mean?! ...if not, let me know, will try once more!
In your first message, you were referring to syncing the Triton Extreme to the EMX. Later, you changed it to the EMX and ESX? Which is it?
There are really two separate tasks that you need to do.
1. Start both devices at the same time.
2. Keep them in sync while they're playing.
The easiest way to start both at the same time is to set them to transmit all midi messages, power them down and back up, then record the messages that occur in the first few seconds after you start them manually. Then use an editor to remove all the messages such as midi notes that you don't need, while leaving all the ones you do. The reason why you need to power down/up is because you want to capture the program/bank/song settings that you do to initially get it set up for playing, not just the message that occur after you hit the play button. Otherwise you might just start whatever program/song that happens to be loaded, instead of the one you really want to be triggered.
The easiest way to record and edit the midi is using a computer with DAW software, but anything that records external midi (including system exclusive messages) should work. After editing, you can send the midi file to whatever sequencer you want to use as the master. You'll just need to keep the midi messages assigned to a different midi channel for each device, and then set the device to receive messages only from the appropriate channel. If you transmit the messages to the same midi channel, then you'll get some really strange behavior because the devices will be receiving system exclusive messages from other devices that they'll not recognize or will misinterpret.
To keep them both in sync, you need to set one to transmit midi sync messages and the other to receive them and to stop using its internal clock and use the external midi sync instead. That will keep them synced together. Even if you change the BPM of the master, the slave will keep in sync with it, such as for the timing of the arpeggiators, delay effects, LFOs, or whatever you have assigned to use the midi clock.
There are really two separate tasks that you need to do.
1. Start both devices at the same time.
2. Keep them in sync while they're playing.
The easiest way to start both at the same time is to set them to transmit all midi messages, power them down and back up, then record the messages that occur in the first few seconds after you start them manually. Then use an editor to remove all the messages such as midi notes that you don't need, while leaving all the ones you do. The reason why you need to power down/up is because you want to capture the program/bank/song settings that you do to initially get it set up for playing, not just the message that occur after you hit the play button. Otherwise you might just start whatever program/song that happens to be loaded, instead of the one you really want to be triggered.
The easiest way to record and edit the midi is using a computer with DAW software, but anything that records external midi (including system exclusive messages) should work. After editing, you can send the midi file to whatever sequencer you want to use as the master. You'll just need to keep the midi messages assigned to a different midi channel for each device, and then set the device to receive messages only from the appropriate channel. If you transmit the messages to the same midi channel, then you'll get some really strange behavior because the devices will be receiving system exclusive messages from other devices that they'll not recognize or will misinterpret.
To keep them both in sync, you need to set one to transmit midi sync messages and the other to receive them and to stop using its internal clock and use the external midi sync instead. That will keep them synced together. Even if you change the BPM of the master, the slave will keep in sync with it, such as for the timing of the arpeggiators, delay effects, LFOs, or whatever you have assigned to use the midi clock.