I would like to know if I can midi dump or somehow transfer my modified sounds and my sequences I created on the T1 Keyboard to the Korg Legacy Collection on my Macintosh computer.
Thank you in advance!
Micdim
Transfer/Import T1 Sequencer/Sounds from Keyboard?
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You can't do this with the Legacy Collection. This suite contains the Legacy Cell, the MS-20, the Polysix (and, with the Analog Edition 2007 upgrade, the MonoPoly). These were all analog synths whereas the T1 was a digital synth.
However, if you own the Korg Legacy Digital Edition (which contains the M1 and the Wavestation), you should be able to dump your sounds (not your sequences though) as sysex files to your computer and import them into the M1. I haven't tried this myself since I don't own a T1. But since the software M1 comes with all the T1 factory sounds and additional card banks, and since it can import original M1 sysex files, I don't see any reason why this shouldn't work.
Transferring sequences from the T1 can also be done with a decent software sequencer.
Kind regards.
However, if you own the Korg Legacy Digital Edition (which contains the M1 and the Wavestation), you should be able to dump your sounds (not your sequences though) as sysex files to your computer and import them into the M1. I haven't tried this myself since I don't own a T1. But since the software M1 comes with all the T1 factory sounds and additional card banks, and since it can import original M1 sysex files, I don't see any reason why this shouldn't work.
Transferring sequences from the T1 can also be done with a decent software sequencer.
Kind regards.
Dave Bourke
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for letting me know. I do have the Digital Edition!
Would the procedure to dump sysex files into my computer and import them into KLDE be in the manual?
If not, can you give me some idea as to what the procedure would be?
Can I dump just a few sounds, or do I have to dump the whole thing?
Can they be dumped into an area of KLDE so I don't overwrite the other disks?
Thank you for your time Dave, I do appreciate it.
Thanks for letting me know. I do have the Digital Edition!
Would the procedure to dump sysex files into my computer and import them into KLDE be in the manual?
If not, can you give me some idea as to what the procedure would be?
Can I dump just a few sounds, or do I have to dump the whole thing?
Can they be dumped into an area of KLDE so I don't overwrite the other disks?
Thank you for your time Dave, I do appreciate it.
Yes, this information is in the manual. Just check the second page of the table of contents for "Importing system exclusive data" and you'll see that it points you to page 77.
In order to deal with sysex on the Mac, you'll need to download and install a sysex librarian. The best one, which is also free, is Sysex Librarian by Snoize. You can download it here:
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/
In order to use it properly, it is advisable to read (and save as a .webarchive file) the single page of documentation you'll find here:
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/docs.html
To dump from your synth, you need first of all to set up Sysex Librarian to receive incoming data. Once you've done that, the dump is initiated from the synth's front panel, specifically a page in Global Mode.
As I said, I don't own a T1 but I do have a bunch of other Korgs. They usually offer options to dump All Data, All Combinations, All Programs, All Sequences, or single instances of Combination, Program, or Sequence, along with Global Data.
All Data includes all RAM banks of Combinations, Programs, Sequences, and Global data. But you will have to see for yourself what options the T1's Global Dump page offers.
As for your final question, I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that since I've never imported sysex into the M1 myself. However, I do it regularly with the Wavestation. In this case, if it's a single bank, it writes into the RAM 1 bank, or, if a two-bank set, both RAM 1 and RAM 2. These writes are not permanent unless you specifically save the state of the plug-in with a new bank name, and the next time you open the Wavestation the factory banks will have returned. So you don't have to worry about overwriting anything unless you specifically save the new state as the default bank.
Consequently, I don't know which M1 bank your sysex import will write to, I'm afraid. But since there are a number of empty User Banks, there must be a mechanism to copy and paste individual presets from the imported bank into one of these. Once you've figured this out and got your User Bank the way you want it, you must then save the state of the plug-in under a different bank name in order to keep your work and access it in the future.
EDIT: As always, it's best to make a backup copy of your factory default bank before experimenting. Good luck with it!
Kind regards.
In order to deal with sysex on the Mac, you'll need to download and install a sysex librarian. The best one, which is also free, is Sysex Librarian by Snoize. You can download it here:
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/
In order to use it properly, it is advisable to read (and save as a .webarchive file) the single page of documentation you'll find here:
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/docs.html
To dump from your synth, you need first of all to set up Sysex Librarian to receive incoming data. Once you've done that, the dump is initiated from the synth's front panel, specifically a page in Global Mode.
As I said, I don't own a T1 but I do have a bunch of other Korgs. They usually offer options to dump All Data, All Combinations, All Programs, All Sequences, or single instances of Combination, Program, or Sequence, along with Global Data.
All Data includes all RAM banks of Combinations, Programs, Sequences, and Global data. But you will have to see for yourself what options the T1's Global Dump page offers.
As for your final question, I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that since I've never imported sysex into the M1 myself. However, I do it regularly with the Wavestation. In this case, if it's a single bank, it writes into the RAM 1 bank, or, if a two-bank set, both RAM 1 and RAM 2. These writes are not permanent unless you specifically save the state of the plug-in with a new bank name, and the next time you open the Wavestation the factory banks will have returned. So you don't have to worry about overwriting anything unless you specifically save the new state as the default bank.
Consequently, I don't know which M1 bank your sysex import will write to, I'm afraid. But since there are a number of empty User Banks, there must be a mechanism to copy and paste individual presets from the imported bank into one of these. Once you've figured this out and got your User Bank the way you want it, you must then save the state of the plug-in under a different bank name in order to keep your work and access it in the future.
EDIT: As always, it's best to make a backup copy of your factory default bank before experimenting. Good luck with it!
Kind regards.
Dave Bourke
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Thanks again Dave!
I've been reading the manual and think I'm starting to get it. As for the Sysex librarian, I didn't think I needed such a program. Can I not just import into my computer vie Logic 8, or is it much easier and necessary to use Snoize?
I'm also wondering if I do an "All Data Dump", will the import into KLCDE ignore the "All Sequences" portion of the All Data Dump", or should I not include the "All Sequences" in my Data Dump from the T1?
I haven't created anything new in my KLCDE, so I'm assuming that I could always re-initialize the software back to the original state if something goes wrong.. No?
What exactly are the banks? Each card with Prog, Combi, Multi etc.?
Well it's been a while since I got back into this midi-dump stuff, and sorry for all the questions, but I will thank you once again.
I've been reading the manual and think I'm starting to get it. As for the Sysex librarian, I didn't think I needed such a program. Can I not just import into my computer vie Logic 8, or is it much easier and necessary to use Snoize?
I'm also wondering if I do an "All Data Dump", will the import into KLCDE ignore the "All Sequences" portion of the All Data Dump", or should I not include the "All Sequences" in my Data Dump from the T1?
I haven't created anything new in my KLCDE, so I'm assuming that I could always re-initialize the software back to the original state if something goes wrong.. No?
What exactly are the banks? Each card with Prog, Combi, Multi etc.?
Well it's been a while since I got back into this midi-dump stuff, and sorry for all the questions, but I will thank you once again.
Logic vs Sysex Librarian:
You can indeed record sysex from a synth into a sequencer. But since the sequencer can usually only save the data in its native file format or as a MIDI file, how do you then get the M1 to see it so you can import it? The answer is that you can't. The plug-in can only read its own native file format, or sysex. It can't read Logic files or MIDI files. So you need Sysex Librarian.
All Data Dump:
I don't know since I don't own a T1. I do own a Triton-Rack, however, and it imports sequences from the keyboard models as "Multis," which are simply multi-timbral sequence setups without any actual sequence data. In other words, since there's no actual sequencer on the Rack, only the song setup info is retrieved and used. I would imagine (but I cannot say for certain) that the M1 might behave similarly with sequences embedded in an All Data dump. In other words, it may spit out each sequence as a Multi.
However, there may be a way to avoid these worries. Simply do two dumps from the T1. One for All Combinations and one for All Programs. The second may or may not be necessary since I can't say for certain whether a T1 All Combinations dump will include the child Program patches. If you do need the two dumps, you'll be importing them in two different modes (Combination Mode and Program Mode) so they won't overwrite each other in memory (in theory anyway).
Re-initialising:
I could be wrong but I'm not aware of any mechanism in the M1 for restoring factory defaults short of reinstalling the software from scratch. I think it goes without saying that making a copy of your factory bank for safety is rather easier than a complete reinstall.
What are the banks?
Sorry, it's not clear to me what you mean by this.
The architecture Korg used for these machines is fairly straightforward.
All sound is produced by Programs.
A Combination produces no sound in and of itself -- it is merely a placeholder for up to eight Programs usually assigned to the same MIDI channel, plus the pan, volume, and transpose parameters for each of those Programs, and an FX setup.
On my 01/Wfd, there are two Banks -- A and B. Program Banks A and B each contains 100 Programs. Combination Banks A and B each contains 100 Combinations.
Cards for the 01/Wfd normally add another two banks -- C and D, each of which contains both Programs and Combinations.
So a card is not a bank but a container for adding usually more than one type of bank.
Kind regards.
You can indeed record sysex from a synth into a sequencer. But since the sequencer can usually only save the data in its native file format or as a MIDI file, how do you then get the M1 to see it so you can import it? The answer is that you can't. The plug-in can only read its own native file format, or sysex. It can't read Logic files or MIDI files. So you need Sysex Librarian.
All Data Dump:
I don't know since I don't own a T1. I do own a Triton-Rack, however, and it imports sequences from the keyboard models as "Multis," which are simply multi-timbral sequence setups without any actual sequence data. In other words, since there's no actual sequencer on the Rack, only the song setup info is retrieved and used. I would imagine (but I cannot say for certain) that the M1 might behave similarly with sequences embedded in an All Data dump. In other words, it may spit out each sequence as a Multi.
However, there may be a way to avoid these worries. Simply do two dumps from the T1. One for All Combinations and one for All Programs. The second may or may not be necessary since I can't say for certain whether a T1 All Combinations dump will include the child Program patches. If you do need the two dumps, you'll be importing them in two different modes (Combination Mode and Program Mode) so they won't overwrite each other in memory (in theory anyway).
Re-initialising:
I could be wrong but I'm not aware of any mechanism in the M1 for restoring factory defaults short of reinstalling the software from scratch. I think it goes without saying that making a copy of your factory bank for safety is rather easier than a complete reinstall.
What are the banks?
Sorry, it's not clear to me what you mean by this.
The architecture Korg used for these machines is fairly straightforward.
All sound is produced by Programs.
A Combination produces no sound in and of itself -- it is merely a placeholder for up to eight Programs usually assigned to the same MIDI channel, plus the pan, volume, and transpose parameters for each of those Programs, and an FX setup.
On my 01/Wfd, there are two Banks -- A and B. Program Banks A and B each contains 100 Programs. Combination Banks A and B each contains 100 Combinations.
Cards for the 01/Wfd normally add another two banks -- C and D, each of which contains both Programs and Combinations.
So a card is not a bank but a container for adding usually more than one type of bank.
Kind regards.
Dave Bourke
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Hi Dave,
I did a system dump from the following but they don't show up when I want to import them into KLCDE. (It seems that File B from the following only works)
Korg T1 File B - Dump All Data (All Dump works but no sequence.)
Korg T1 File A - Dump All Data (Does not import)
Korg T1 File A - Dump Combination works
Korg T1 File A - Dump Program (Does not work)
It seems that when I load all my data from the "Floppy Disk - File B," it loads fine into my T1, dumps correctly and works for importing into KLCDE, but when I load my data from the same "FLoppy Disk - File A", it loads fine into my T1, and seems to Dump fine, but it won't import into KLCDE.
Any thoughts as to why?
I did a system dump from the following but they don't show up when I want to import them into KLCDE. (It seems that File B from the following only works)
Korg T1 File B - Dump All Data (All Dump works but no sequence.)
Korg T1 File A - Dump All Data (Does not import)
Korg T1 File A - Dump Combination works
Korg T1 File A - Dump Program (Does not work)
It seems that when I load all my data from the "Floppy Disk - File B," it loads fine into my T1, dumps correctly and works for importing into KLCDE, but when I load my data from the same "FLoppy Disk - File A", it loads fine into my T1, and seems to Dump fine, but it won't import into KLCDE.
Any thoughts as to why?