Xprodata Expansion Boards

worth · Post by **worth** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:26 pm

Has anyone purchased the Xprodata Expansion Board XMS1 Entertainer board and can they comment on what their thoughts were about this board in detail ?

1. What were the styles like ?
2. Are they the same as or better in terms of programming than the styles on the PA1X?
3. Do they duplicate what styles already exist on the PA1X ?
4. Especially can someone comment on the drum kits. It has 128 new kits but do they actually sound new or just slight tweaks to the existing drum sets on the PA1X
5. What about the Brass, Guitars, Strings ?

I look through the sound list and there is an awful lot of duplication .....Or are they completely reprogrammed sounds but with the same names ?

What is your general impression. I am tempted to buy but the Pound is week against the Euro and i am not completely convinced from the demo on the site but that only gives a glimps of what is available on the board so maybe i have the wrong impression.

Your comments would be greatly appreciated

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:02 am

Hello Worth:

A few weeks ago I searched the forum in hopes of obtaining feed back on the Xprodata Expansion Board XMS1 and found 3 members that had used it. The three members that responded were Flemming M, Admar, and Witted. Although all three had positve reports, stating that it somehow "Opens up the keyboard" I still was not sure what they meant or what they were hearing. You may wish to contact them directly.

My kind wife bought one for me for Christmas but I have hestitated to load it in fear of losing settings which I depend on for my weekly gigs. I fully intend to throw cautiion to the wind but I've been waiting for a gap in my calender so that I would have time to methodically down load the software and fix any unforeseen problems which might arise.

I will certainly contact you when I do and let you know my opinion. In the mean time let me know if you find out anything I should know about it.

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

worth · Post by **worth** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:45 am

Thats brilliant Charlie. It seems the only way to expand this instrument now is through these expansion cards and i would really value an in depth review of it. Thanks

mr.dee · Post by **mr.dee** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:37 pm

Hello,
the XMS-Music Systems we developed are all based on new, fresh sample material, togehter with a new intelligent programming of the GM, GS and new XG! Sound configuration. More than 500 new Drum Sounds, alot of new Multisamples, even a great Stereo Grand Piano Sound and more than 400 new Styles and Remixes of the default Factory Styles.

For Sounds and Audio Demos and more information please go to www.xprodata.de

More questions, please asked me.

The new big XMS Systems we release next week for Pa800 and Pa2x.
Stay tuned

We just redesign our webside.

worth · Post by **worth** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:07 pm

Hi Mr Dee. thanks for visiting us here at the forum. Can you help me with the following question:

1. How many styles are actually new styles and not just the same styles tweaked a little ?
2. Can you provide a demo of more of the drum kits on the Golden Entertainer expansion Board ?
3. Are there plans for any further expansion boards for the PA1X
4. Is it possible for any of your english speaking customers to come on the site and provide a review of the Golden entertainer Expansion Board

Thank you so much for your help so far .

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:53 am

Hello Mr. Dee:

As mentioned in previous postings, I currently own the XMS1 but have not yet loaded the software.

I have weekly gigs and cannot risk losing any of my settings.

I have "tailored"or "modified" many of Korgs arrangements to suit my self and have stored them in my Personal Song Book.

Are the XMS1 arrangements comparable with Korgs?

When I call up a Song from my Song Book can I expect the same arrangements or will they all be changed by XMS1?

In addition, will I have access to some of my most favorite Korg sounds, Specifically "Vintage EP", "Jazz Tenor Sax Vel.1" and "Distorted Organ"?
I've found that these sounds blend perfectly with the styles of music that I play and would hate to lose them.

Could you please check this out for me.?

As always, thanks for your help.

Charley brown

mr.dee · Post by **mr.dee** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:31 am

Hi,
now first of all, if you use your backup or set, a modified pa1x/pro and also the new PA800/2x are reacting like an original Factory Version.
The advantage is that you have more Sounds and Drumkits on Top with new Sound and Drumkit places.
If you load our software system, you can only load your set(if you load a backup, system data would be overwriten), but than you have a "new" instrument which reacts and sounds much better.
The Pa Series(1x/pro 2x 800) then knows more formats like GM, GM2, GS and XG, so if you play Midifiles with these formats they sound perfect. All Styles are sounding much better with the new sound system and if you convert styles you have a better compatibility.
In Pa800/2x you have even Megavoices from the Tyros instruments.

Listen to the Demos and read pdf's at
http://www.pa1xpro.de/download_index.htm

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:02 am

Hello Mr. Dee:

Thank you for your response. Could you please explain in more detail?

You stated,
"If you load our software system, you can only load your set(if you load a backup, system data would be overwriten) ~ "

What precisely do you mean? Please bear in mind that I may be vague on definitions and I've got a lot to learn.

Will I still find factory sounds and styles in the same locations in the memory banks? And, if I wish, will I be able to retrieve original factory sounds and styles with ease. If so, how?

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

admar · Post by **admar** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:45 pm

Charley Brown wrote:Hello Mr. Dee:
Thank you for your response. Could you please explain in more detail?
You stated,
"If you load our software system, you can only load your set(if you load a backup, system data would be overwriten) ~ "
What precisely do you mean? Please bear in mind that I may be vague on definitions and I've got a lot to learn.

Hello Charley Brown,
I'm not Mr. Dee, but I know he is a busy man, so I take the liberty of trying to answer your question, hoping that Mr. Dee will add to it where I might leave something out.
If you install the XMS-1 Entertainer Board, and you want to have full benefit of it, you also should install the software that comes along with it. That means a full operating system, with modifications to the original Korg OS version 3.01. When you replace the newly installed OS + Musical Resources that is, with a (full) backup you made from your key before installing the XMS-1, you wont have the benefits from it.
But you can always load a .SET, or any part of it, for instance just some styles or pads or performances etc. So the OS + Mus.Res. have to be loaded from the XMS-1 software, but any user location (or factory preset) still can be loaded or overwritten with whatever data you like.

Charley Brown wrote: Will I still find factory sounds and styles in the same locations in the memory banks? And, if I wish, will I be able to retrieve original factory sounds and styles with ease. If so, how?
Thanks ~ Charley Brown

Yes, all factory sounds and styles will be in their original position as before, but some (most?) of them may be modified to sound better, making use of the samples and sounds of the XMS-1 expansion board.
If however, for any odd reason, you might want to restore for instance an original factory preset style, you just load it to a user location (nice for A/B comparison) or overwrite the original location from the ALLSAVE.SET you saved before installing the XMS-1.
P.S. Take note that with a standard ALL SAVE operation, the checkboxes from PCM and Songbook are NOT checked. PCM is empty in initial factory style, so any samples you might have loaded are on your harddisk I presume, but your Songbook is mostly build up in time and should be saved!
P.S. 2. The ALL SAVE operation only saves USER DATA, so the factory preset styles are not saved. You can do this yourself, or you can download the styles from the website of XPRODATA. I have used them to add some of the Ending 3 parts to the modified styles which don't have the Ending 3 in it.

Regards, Admar.

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:36 am

Admar:

Thank you so much for shedding light on the subject. You have been a great help. I'm beginning to gain a little understanding of how the XMS1 Expansion Board and OS sounds and works and what to expect.

Many times the responses to questions posted regarding the XMS1 failed to answer the original question. I've been digging for answers to specific questions that were of major concern for me.

It's good to hear from someone who owns and uses the XMS1 Board and OS. You obviously speak from experience. You have done a great job.

I now have a break in my calender and plan to make the conversion sometime in the next two weeks. I know I'll need help.

Many thanks. ~ Charley Brown

admar · Post by **admar** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:04 am

Good luck with it and feel free to ask any question you might have.

Admar

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:40 am

To ~ Pete the Karmathanever man.

As you are aware I'm preparing to down loud the Xprodata OS that goes with the XMS1 card. I noticed that on 4/11/08 you posted a warniing that ~ "if you upgrade (with the last 3 upgrades,for the Pa1X, and use the Intro Button) it will delete the Voice Activation Code ..."

Will this also happen when I down load the Xprodata OS? Yes I did keep the activation code but is there a way to avoid this from happening?

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:57 am

I think that you will find that whenever you use the "Intro1" for an installation, the activation code will be cleared.

Just re-enter the code after the install.

Cheers

Pete

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:59 am

To ~ Mr. Dee, Wittid or Admar:

In December '08 I received the Xprodata XMS1 OS and BKP disks (v3.01) from steve350 when he sold the XMS1 board. Since then, is there any chance that there may be a newer, updated version? If so what would be the most recent upgrade date and ID number.

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

steve350 · Post by **steve350** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:40 pm

Charley, I thought for sure you would have that up and running by now. The disk I sent you was the latest update for December 08. Let us know what you think after the install. I thought the sounds were fabulous.

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