seek for a sound while EMX is playing

bitstream · Post by **bitstream** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:47 pm

Hi,
I am new with the elctribe MX. There is something I find very uncomfortable.
Let's say I create some nice bass sounds and store them to pattern C01/S1-S5.
Now I go back to work on my patterns A01-A40 which I use for my live set.
I play for example A01 and some parts are already programmed. Now I want to browse for a bass sound which I have prepared before.
Is it correct that I have to stop the pattern and copy one of the prepared bass sound located on the C01 pattern?
Like this I never can listen and try different sounds, and check how they fit to the rest I have already programmed.
Do I something wrong?

thanks for help.

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:00 am

Yes you are correct- this is because the EMX is a 'real' synth, as opposed to a sample based synth- like the ESX (which is an actual sampler) or Rolands MC 505 eg (which is a sample based synth)- both of which allow you to scroll through the previously sampled sounds before twiddling. Don't worry, you will soon grow to love your EMX and it won't be an issue.......honest!

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:24 pm

robosardine wrote:Yes you are correct- this is because the EMX is a 'real' synth, as opposed to a sample based synth- like the ESX (which is an actual sampler) or Rolands MC 505 eg (which is a sample based synth)- both of which allow you to scroll through the previously sampled sounds before twiddling. Don't worry, you will soon grow to love your EMX and it won't be an issue.......honest!

Emx is far from a real synth

. In fact if it's able to go from pattern to pattern seamlessly while playing it is nothing more then a design flaw that you cannot copy a sound from another pattern while it's playing...

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:39 pm

Ruso- The EMX is a 'real' synthesizer- From the Korg website-
'Cutting-edge MMT synthesis engine ..............................
Powered by one of the most advanced synthesizer engines in the world................... all-new MMT (Multi Modeling Technology) offers sixteen different oscillator algorithms, providing powerful analog synthesis models'.

And from Dictionary,com....
'syn⋅the⋅siz⋅er / [sin-thuh-sahy-zer]

–noun 1. a person or thing that synthesizes.
2. any of various electronic, sometimes portable consoles or modules, usually computerized, for creating, modifying, and combining tones or reproducing the sounds of musical instruments by controlling voltage patterns, operated by means of keyboards, joysticks, sliders, or knobs'.

The sound that you hear when playing the EMX is a sound that you created using it's synthesizer engine as opposed to a PCM synth e.g. where the sounds that are loaded in it (which you can scroll through) are replayed to you when you hit the keys.

gotBASS? · Post by **gotBASS?** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:23 pm

this could be fun

Yatmandu · Post by **Yatmandu** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:39 pm

I think he meant "real" in a colloquial sense, like "compared to the Moog Voyager, the EMX is not a 'real' synthesizer", but I could be wrong!

bitstream · Post by **bitstream** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:16 am

thanks for your help guys,
It seems that I have to get alonge with it. I was just wondering because on ACCESS VIRUS you can scroll throu different sounds while the other synth parts are playing. I think this is very usfull and it helps to save time in the production of a pattern.

regards
bitstream

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:17 pm

bitstream wrote:on ACCESS VIRUS you can scroll throu different sounds while the other synth parts are playing. I think this is very usfull and it helps to save time in the production of a pattern.

No doubt it would be helpful...but because of the EMX's effects limitations, it's probably just as well that you scroll through them. Unless the effects chain is exactly the same as it was on your previous pattern, the synth will sound somewhat different anyway once you copy it to your new pattern.

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:10 pm

EMX is not a real synth. It is a very basic digital low end synth PROGRAM which runs on a VERY slow computer.

There is NO analogue circuitry of any kind to produce any of the synthesis or any other part except for the a/d's and the tube preamps..... so no it's not really a synth... more like a freebie vst under windows 3.1

Yatmandu · Post by **Yatmandu** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:02 am

Umm Ruso, synth does not mean it has to be real analogue circuits, otherwise there's gonna be a ton of pissed off Virus owners out there that just found out they don't own a synth!

The EMX is a synth, it has VA algorithms creating sounds, just like a Virus, a Waldorf, a high end Korg or Roland. A DX7 is a synth, even if it's just a bunch of DSP algorithms running complex sinusoid modulations.

Now, I prefer the sound of real analogue over virtual analogue any day of the week, but the EMX is as much a synth as any other box running DSP algorithms.

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:08 pm

Yes but it's posing as an old school analogue synth... when it's not

Yatmandu · Post by **Yatmandu** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:59 pm

I dunno, I think the only thing it's posing as is a: groovebox synth/drum-machine. I can't believe anyone who bought or is interested in an EMX thought they were getting a vinatge synth.

AI_Joe · Post by **AI_Joe** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:49 pm

Ruso wrote:Yes but it's posing as an old school analogue synth... when it's not

It's a synth-synth.

(Mine is being shipped. I'm so excited. I'll be coming to this forum soon.)

johnagiambalvo · Post by **johnagiambalvo** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:29 pm

It is not a real synth with real analog controls, that effect voltages and the like. but is a digital fax-similar. Johnny G

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