Separate stereo outputs for Combis

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Separate stereo outputs for Combis

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On the TR Rack, I am trying to get a Combi (D28, Elec Piano) to OUTPUT on the back outputs 1 & 2. I am trying to get the Combi D73 to OUTPUT on the back outputs 3 & 4. Is there an easy way to do this in multi mode without reprogramming all the Programs? The manual doesn't explain this very well. :(
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Not sure about the TR-Rack, but on the keyboard version you have to make use of the master effects "Sends" to pipe audio to Output 3 and 4.
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I have to back up a bit. I am not using the TR Rack to its potential. I am currently only playing back Programs and Combis. I know I can set different combis to different midi channels and play them back in Multi mode, but is there somewhere I can go that explains how to set this up in simpler terms? I need a step by step explanation. Thanks.
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It appears my Output Masterclass has since been deleted (pruned) from the forum.

Good job I retained a copy!

The GUI will be different, but the theory will still be the same. You'd need to adapt it to your TR-Rack's GUI and/or the Trinitro librarian if that's possible.

Although this tutorial is for Sequencer mode, Combis are extremely similar.


Korg Trinity:
Utilising all four audio jack outputs
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To access outputs 3 and 4 in sequencer mode you will need to make use of the Send 1 & 2 channels. Send 1 & 2 are normally used as auxiliary buses to send audio to the master global effects (the last effects in the chain, accessed via the screen on "P8"), but to use the Sends as individual outs (for outputs 3 and 4) you may need to rethink your master effects usage for outputs 1 & 2, as these may be blended with the 3 & 4 outputs unless you use extreme settings (isolating them away from the Sends).

If that sounds a tad complex, don't worry, here's a quick tutorial:-

* Hook up all four main jack outputs from the Trinity to individual channels on your external mixer.
* Open the sequencer screen on the Trinity (P1). If you look directly above the volume faders on each midi channel you'll be able to see the pan control.

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Output 1 (L) - Image - Output 2 (R)

This pan pot sends the patch to just the Trinity's main outputs 1 and 2 only (it is NOT connected to outputs 3 or 4 in any way whatsoever).

If you select the panpot to be "C064" (ie. "central" as shown above), the sound will be sent to BOTH the main outputs 1 & 2 equally. If you select "L000" it will pan the sound to hard-left (and send the sound JUST to main output 1 on its own. - Output 2 will remain silent). Similarly selecting "R127" pans the sound to hard-right (sending the sound JUST to output 2 on its own, while output 1 remains silent).
Selecting "OFF" mutes the sound from both outputs 1 AND 2.

So what about outputs 3 & 4?....

* Press the "MIX-1-8" tab on the bottom of the screen it takes you to the page where you can specify "Send 1" and "Send 2" amounts. Just bear this in mind, briefly, as these are the key to the Trinity's two extra main outputs (outputs 3 & 4).

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* Now press the "P8" button, and it'll take you to the master effects.

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On the left you can see where the Sends go (if you follow the arrows). "Send 1" goes through the Master "Modulation" effect and then goes to another pan control ("Pan 1"), while "Send 2" goes through the Master "Reverb/Delay" effect and goes to a second pan control ("Pan 2").

This time, panning hard-left (L) routes the audio to output 3, and panning hard-right (R) routes the audio to output 4.

Oddly, the default configuration is is that Send 1 & 2 are both panned hard-left (L) hence both are sent to output 3.... So, in order for Send 2 to be routed to output 4 change "Pan2" to be hard-right (R).

* Now go back to the "Mix-1-8" screen where you can select the Send amounts for each track.

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If you want a track to be routed to output 3, raise the value of Send 1 to maximum. Similarly if you want a track to be routed to output 4, raise Send 2 to maximum. Raising both of them for the same track will route the track to both outputs 3 & 4.

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In conclusion, to get four different sounds to come out of each of the Trinity's four main jack outputs, set up four tracks in the sequencer with different sounds. For an example, I'll have four different patches set up on four tracks:-

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^ Look at the pan settings:

Track 1 is routed fully to the left (for output 1)
Track 2 is routed fully to the right (for output 2)
Track 3 has the panpot turned off (outputs 1 & 2 are muted for this track)
Track 4 has the panpot turned off (outputs 1 & 2 are muted for this track)

Then go to the Mix-1-8 tab:

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Track 1 is not routed to Send 1 or Send 2
Track 2 is not routed to Send 1 or Send 2
Track 3 is fully routed into Send 1, but not Send 2
Track 4 is fully routed into Send 2, but not Send 1

Then go to the Master effects page P8:

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Send 1 is routed fully to the left (output 3)
Send 2 is routed fully to the right (output 4)

And there you go!

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Lastly, cautions. It goes without saying you will likely have to sacrifice the Master Modulation and Reverb/Delay effects for all tracks and outputs if you want the patches routed to outputs 3 & 4 dry. Outputs 1 & 2 can't use the Sends (and therefore the Master effects) at all if you wish to avoid "spill" between outputs. However, you can usually set the "wetness" of some master effects for outputting the sounds already destined for outputs 3 & 4.

Also beware of the check-box inbetween Send 1 and Send 2 on the last picture (Master effects), as it routes Send 1 into Send 2, so output 3 would spill into output 4 too.

Lastly, beware of any Sends used in the Track Effects (P7) page.

Er, hope you got all that. ;) It can be a bit of a rats maze if left untamed, but otherwise can be quite creative.

Timo ;)
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Post by sintrade »

Great!! Thanks so much for this info.
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