ES-1 Sampling Memory Limit

4dnightmare · Post by **4dnightmare** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:06 pm

I read through the manual (I'm considering looking for one) and it states that there is a 95-second sample memory limitation. Is this per sample or the grand total? Big difference!

Tom

Aciphecs · Post by **Aciphecs** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:40 pm

Total. If it were per sample I'd have one right now

The ESX only has 285 seconds total! You can do alot with this precious time if you are picky with your samples.

4dnightmare · Post by **4dnightmare** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:43 pm

That's what I figured, but I thought I'd ask. I was wondering because there are so many pre-loaded ones. I perform solo with a Dave Smith Mopho linked to an EMX and then add Kaossilator (circuit bent), Monotron and guitar. So vocals is a challenge, just to coordinate. I was hoping to toss in a few early Minutemen-ish two or three line vocals of my own, as well as various Skinny Puppy-type samples. My friend keeps telling me about the Roland 808. It says it has a 4MB limit, which I think is a few minutes?

Appreciate the quick response, thank you!

Aciphecs · Post by **Aciphecs** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:04 pm

The Roland SP-404 can hold up to a 2GB card, which is about 6 hours! My bandmate has one and the sample quality is much better than any of the 'tribes. You can't mangle the samples as easily with the SP, but it's got good effects

4dnightmare · Post by **4dnightmare** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:29 pm

Thanks, I'll check that one out!

pdidit · Post by **pdidit** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:03 pm

I sold my 404 and got a es1. The worst thing about the 404 and the reason I sold it. is it doesn't keep the tempo. It drifts off the time pretty quick (or at least mine did) and with several samples running , that got pretty crazy.

Dr Feelgood · Post by **Dr Feelgood** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:22 pm

On the first ES-1 (the one with the green faceplate) the actual stock sample time is 98.3 seconds. The manual wrongly says 95 seconds for some reason.

pdidit · Post by **pdidit** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:07 pm

I have another post up trying to figure this out but it seems that the samples go with the bank. i.e. sound 01 in bank [1] doesn't have to be the same sound as 01 in bank [2]. So I guess you can have a completely different set of samples for each bank. But I'm guessing that the total can be 98.3 not per bank?

pdidit · Post by **pdidit** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:00 pm

, Maybe not, I have just stumbled on another glitch, some of the part keys in some patterns in bank (file) [2] don't make any sound now, even though they are assigned a sample and are lighting up as the sequence plays , just no sound. AND when I try to assign a different sample to that part still no sound That part key is dead , but lighting up. However the same sample does work in bank (file) [1]Weird. What did I do?

Dr Feelgood · Post by **Dr Feelgood** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:10 pm

pdidit wrote:I have another post up trying to figure this out but it seems that the samples go with the bank. i.e. sound 01 in bank [1] doesn't have to be the same sound as 01 in bank [2]. So I guess you can have a completely different set of samples for each bank. But I'm guessing that the total can be 98.3 not per bank?

Yes. You can hold 98.3 seconds worth of samples on any given bank on your smartmedia card. Each bank can hold the same sounds or different sounds depending on what you choose to save. In fact the maximum sample limit for samples stored in the ES-1's internal memory is 150 (100 monaural, 50 stereo).

Dr Feelgood · Post by **Dr Feelgood** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:15 pm

pdidit wrote:, Maybe not, I have just stumbled on another glitch, some of the part keys in some patterns in bank (file) [2] don't make any sound now, even though they are assigned a sample and are lighting up as the sequence plays , just no sound. AND when I try to assign a different sample to that part still no sound That part key is dead , but lighting up. However the same sample does work in bank (file) [1]Weird. What did I do?

Are you by any chance using stereo samples? If so, stereo samples can only be played on the first 2 pads (1/st. and 3/st.). Normal mono samples however can be played on all of the pads.

Hope this helps

pdidit · Post by **pdidit** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:03 am

I don't think that's it because severl part keys aren't working including the 1st one in some patterns. I wonder if I confused the 'tribe by overwritting the numbers in 2 different banks with 2 different sounds. That is bank [1] pattern a01 uses sound 00 in the first pad but in [9] I over wrote that 00 sound with a new sample and used it in a pattern on pad 1. I think when I go back and reload bank [1], and try to play that a01 pattern , pad 1 will be silent but lilghting up. basically, frozen. So the same sample # , in this case 00, cann't have 2 different sounds assigned even though they are in different banks. In other words, all 9 banks use the same set of samples so in all 9 banks of patterns ,( a total of 1152 patterns) sound 00 has to be the same. I haven't tested this but that's what seems to be happening.
If I want to use a diferent set of 99+ samples I have to use a differnt set of [9] banks. ?
Is there any way to bulk load all the samples at once? or do I have to do each one seperately as I assign it a number?
and is there any way to start with a blank bank?
thanks

pdidit · Post by **pdidit** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:19 am

I figured out one part of it. The frozen keys thawed out when I cleared the part.
would still like to know if there is a way to bulk load new samples?
Is ther a way to edit the .es1 files? I know there is an editor for the esx but doee work it on the es1?