Hi, this is my first post on this forum, thank you! I'm trying to make a fat sax sound -- the closest I can do is use the bari-blaster (C109) with some delay, reverb, and an Exciter. It sounds great in mid to low ranges (middle C and a few notes above) but sounds awful just one octave up -- sounds brassy with no sax-ishness to it.
When I try layering another sax or woodwind on top it just starts warbling... the waveforms must be a little different in tune from each other, generates a sort of detune/chorus effect which I don't want.
Is there a good way (or has somebody made a patch I can download) a great fat sax that can still stay strong one octave above middle C? for reference, I'm trying to play the sax solo on Duran Duran's "Rio" -- it sounds great on the bottom, but like a trumpet at the top. Thanks in advance!
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I'm fairly happy with my saxes, but they sound fake compared to real - which I also play. But i've been thinking of how to do it... something to try, dunno how successful the result will be.
Roland's Linear Algorithm (LA) synths (i.e., D50) were based on the idea that the attack transient - the first 10th of a second of sound - gave most sounds 90% of their character. They were pretty good for trumpet - the "spit" was there.
The saxes may be getting less "saxy" because the attack transient is shortened; sample times compress as pitch rises past the 2.3 octaves the sax can actually play (bari would be in that 3rd octave at middle C).
Make a very short duration patch using the bari, or another sax sound -- I'm thinking that a drum kit might even be the way to go to do this -- the sound doesn't necessarily have to follow pitch as long as it's a "saxy" reed transient. Then layer with your best sax sound (combi).
Adding a short attack should be enough to restore some sax-like character, but won't be so long that it causes the phasing issues.
BB
I'm fairly happy with my saxes, but they sound fake compared to real - which I also play. But i've been thinking of how to do it... something to try, dunno how successful the result will be.
Roland's Linear Algorithm (LA) synths (i.e., D50) were based on the idea that the attack transient - the first 10th of a second of sound - gave most sounds 90% of their character. They were pretty good for trumpet - the "spit" was there.
The saxes may be getting less "saxy" because the attack transient is shortened; sample times compress as pitch rises past the 2.3 octaves the sax can actually play (bari would be in that 3rd octave at middle C).
Make a very short duration patch using the bari, or another sax sound -- I'm thinking that a drum kit might even be the way to go to do this -- the sound doesn't necessarily have to follow pitch as long as it's a "saxy" reed transient. Then layer with your best sax sound (combi).
Adding a short attack should be enough to restore some sax-like character, but won't be so long that it causes the phasing issues.
BB
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