Program to Combi difference question

Phinnin · Post by **Phinnin** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:43 am

Greetings,

I am having an issue that puzzles me: I use a program, in this case Keen Lead I-A106 that has a very nice portamento effect that doesn't occur when I put the same program into a combi.

Can anyone explain this phenomenon?

Thanks in advance,

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:10 am

Haven't noticed that personally. I like to use the "Write(Copy?) from Program" function. There is a place you can adjust the portamento for each patch to be what's in the program or custom AFAIK.

Speaking of getting things to sound the same, I'd REALLY love to see if the function I mentioned above could allocate IFX to unused slots (I mean, hey there's 12 of them!) rather than OVERWRITING the ones I just copied for the last program in the combi and intelligently assign those IFX to the program being copied. This would be VERY helpful when creating combis and wanting to keep the Programs within sounding close to the original.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:09 am

NuSkoolTone wrote:Haven't noticed that personally. I like to use the "Write(Copy?) from Program" function. There is a place you can adjust the portamento for each patch to be what's in the program or custom AFAIK.

Speaking of getting things to sound the same, I'd REALLY love to see if the function I mentioned above could allocate IFX to unused slots (I mean, hey there's 12 of them!) rather than OVERWRITING the ones I just copied for the last program in the combi and intelligently assign those IFX to the program being copied. This would be VERY helpful when creating combis and wanting to keep the Programs within sounding close to the original.

I agree to this, then you can copy programs with the highest priority first (making sure those IFXes are copied first), until the 12 IFXes are full. I have thought a long time ago about automatic copying of IFXes but in practice this is very hard to dol

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:52 am

NuSkoolTone wrote:Speaking of getting things to sound the same, I'd REALLY love to see if the function I mentioned above could allocate IFX to unused slots (I mean, hey there's 12 of them!) rather than OVERWRITING the ones I just copied for the last program

I use the ENTER & REC/WRITE function to get that first, most important sound, which also includes the Master and Total settings. After that I COPY the IFX, using the ALL USED checkbox. This puts in all of a Program's IFX, starting with the first slot you specify.

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:38 pm

Portamento doesn't come from FX... it's a synthesis parameter.

I'm not sitting in front of the K right now, but my guess is that in the Program SW1 or 2 is stored on, and this is not the case in the Combi version. Look at that, and be sure your Combi switches are set to the same functions and are saved as in the Program.

Regards,

Jerry

Phinnin · Post by **Phinnin** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:26 pm

Thanks for the replies. Turns out there was helpful content all over. Jerry fixed the specific portamento issue (yep, sw2) but the other responses pointed me to IFX and MFX and sure enough, there's all kinds of goodies in there that affected my program of choice that didn't carry over to the Combi.

Can't wait for extra banks of program slots so I don't have to make a combi just to have an altered version of a program....

Thanks everyone

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:23 pm

Mike Conway wrote:
I use the ENTER & REC/WRITE function to get that first, most important sound, which also includes the Master and Total settings. After that I COPY the IFX, using the ALL USED checkbox. This puts in all of a Program's IFX, starting with the first slot you specify.

Mike, I do this also but sometimes bringing in the next Program it overwrites the first set of FX that was brought in doing the Enter/Rec/Write.
i.e. The next copied Program I select "FX All Used", the initial set of FX gets blown out? Where can you specify what slot to copy the FX? Thanks.

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:52 am

Lou wrote:sometimes bringing in the next Program it overwrites the first set of FX that was brought in doing the Enter/Rec/Write.
i.e. The next copied Program I select "FX All Used", the initial set of FX gets blown out? Where can you specify what slot to copy the FX? Thanks.

Yes, under COPY TO, make sure it lines up with the first available (empty) FX slot. In this example, I copied the Drum Program (ENTER + REC/WRITE) first. Drum programs typically use 5 Insert FX - more than other programs, so I get that out of the way first. That means the next available is IFX6. COPY TO should be #6, as shown in this picture:

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:25 am

Yes! I didn't even realize this. Another wonderful upgrade over my Extreme.

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:04 pm

Mike Conway wrote:
Lou wrote:sometimes bringing in the next Program it overwrites the first set of FX that was brought in doing the Enter/Rec/Write.
i.e. The next copied Program I select "FX All Used", the initial set of FX gets blown out? Where can you specify what slot to copy the FX? Thanks.
Yes, under COPY TO, make sure it lines up with the first available (empty) FX slot. In this example, I copied the Drum Program (ENTER + REC/WRITE) first. Drum programs typically use 5 Insert FX - more than other programs, so I get that out of the way first. That means the next available is IFX6.

Okay, just to be clear, after the initial 'Enter/Rec/Write which brings in all of the effects of the seleted program,
you then select program 2 and from the FX page is where you select the copy to FX slot.. I got it now.
I was copying in the FX at time of selecting the next program. That's when it was overwriting and I couldn't understand why.

Thanks Mike!

It sure would be nice when selecting the next program was intuitive enough to place the FX into the next available slot.. (When copying a Program)

pressrecord@hotmail.com · Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:46 am

Please, please, please: KORG-- work on this!!!!!!!!!!!!

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:40 am

With the Copy Program function you can also use the " All used" checkbox for the FX.
It appends the FX in the next unused box.

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:46 pm

keekma wrote:With the Copy Program function you can also use the " All used" checkbox for the FX.
It appends the FX in the next unused box.

While this is true, it will also change the Master FX that you were working with..

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