1.5 USB Midi Out?

MonoxideC · Post by **MonoxideC** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:06 pm

Does anyone know if the USB midi feature in 1.5 will support midi out? We use BodyBeat Sync metronomes which support a midi clock signal, but are USB only. It would be awesome if the Kronos could send the clock directly to the device!

Specs only mention USB midi input, however.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:48 pm

MIDI input only for now, sorry.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:17 pm

That's disappointing

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:33 pm

More info from the upcoming manuals (all specs subject to change, as usual):

USB MIDI controllers

* Overview

The KRONOS supports direct connection of USB‐MIDI class compliant devices to the rear‐panel USB A ports. Multiple USB MIDI controllers can be connected simultaneously, if desired.

The KRONOS provides no user interface for USB controllers. Any settings stored in the controller, including controller assignments, MIDI channel, and so on will apply in the communication between the controller and the KRONOS. If the controller supports different internal setups (such as Scenes on Korg devices), you can switch between them to change the controller’s functionality.

If the controller is set to a different MIDI channel than the KRONOS’s Global MIDI Channel, you can use it to play a different sound than the local keyboard in Combinations or Songs, as controlled by the Timbre or Track MIDI settings.

Bus‐powered devices are supported, subject to the current limits defined by the USB specification.

* Limitations of USB MIDI device support

MIDI clock is not supported from USB MIDI devices.

System Exclusive messages from USB MIDI devices are limited to 16‐bytes. Additionally, certain messages are not supported, such as mode changes and dump requests

* USB pad controller support

You can play the chord pads using Korg USB MIDI controllers equipped with drum pads, including:
• nanoPAD and nanoPAD2
• microKONTROL
• padKONTROL
• KONTROL49

When a supported controller is connected, the KRONOS will automatically determine the MIDI assignments of the controller’s pads 1‐8, and map them directly to the KRONOS pads. If settings on the controller are changed (such as when selecting a different Scene on a nanoPAD2), the mapping will be updated automatically.

This mapping uses a special internal mechanism, independent of the the Pads 1‐8 parameters on the Global 2–1: Controllers page. Only the Korg USB controllers listed above are supported. If you change the controller’s assignments for the pads (for instance, by selecting a different Scene on the controller), the KRONOS will update its mapping automatically.

From the perspective of MIDI, these USB‐connected pads act exactly the same as if you were touching the on‐screen pads. Playing the USB pads will transmit controller or note data as determined by the Global Controllers Pads 1‐8 parameters (see above) and the Global 1–1: MIDI page Pads MIDI Out parameter.

Messages from the standard MIDI input and from the USB B port (for MIDI to and from a computer) are not affected by the automatic pad mapping.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:02 pm

danatkorg wrote:More info from the upcoming manuals (all specs subject to change, as usual):

USB MIDI controllers

* Overview

The KRONOS supports direct connection of USB‐MIDI class compliant devices to the rear‐panel USB A ports. Multiple USB MIDI controllers can be connected simultaneously, if desired.

The KRONOS provides no user interface for USB controllers. Any settings stored in the controller, including controller assignments, MIDI channel, and so on will apply in the communication between the controller and the KRONOS. If the controller supports different internal setups (such as Scenes on Korg devices), you can switch between them to change the controller’s functionality.

If the controller is set to a different MIDI channel than the KRONOS’s Global MIDI Channel, you can use it to play a different sound than the local keyboard in Combinations or Songs, as controlled by the Timbre or Track MIDI settings.

Bus‐powered devices are supported, subject to the current limits defined by the USB specification.

* Limitations of USB MIDI device support

MIDI clock is not supported from USB MIDI devices.

System Exclusive messages from USB MIDI devices are limited to 16‐bytes. Additionally, certain messages are not supported, such as mode changes and dump requests

* USB pad controller support

You can play the chord pads using Korg USB MIDI controllers equipped with drum pads, including:
• nanoPAD and nanoPAD2
• microKONTROL
• padKONTROL
• KONTROL49

When a supported controller is connected, the KRONOS will automatically determine the MIDI assignments of the controller’s pads 1‐8, and map them directly to the KRONOS pads. If settings on the controller are changed (such as when selecting a different Scene on a nanoPAD2), the mapping will be updated automatically.

This mapping uses a special internal mechanism, independent of the the Pads 1‐8 parameters on the Global 2–1: Controllers page. Only the Korg USB controllers listed above are supported. If you change the controller’s assignments for the pads (for instance, by selecting a different Scene on the controller), the KRONOS will update its mapping automatically.

From the perspective of MIDI, these USB‐connected pads act exactly the same as if you were touching the on‐screen pads. Playing the USB pads will transmit controller or note data as determined by the Global Controllers Pads 1‐8 parameters (see above) and the Global 1–1: MIDI page Pads MIDI Out parameter.

Messages from the standard MIDI input and from the USB B port (for MIDI to and from a computer) are not affected by the automatic pad mapping.

Dan, I'd suggest you include a line in there pointing out that you can still use other USB controllers for the pads, they just won't map automatically.
Assuming that's the way it works, which is what it sounds like to me.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:45 pm

X-Trade wrote:
Dan, I'd suggest you include a line in there pointing out that you can still use other USB controllers for the pads, they just won't map automatically.
Assuming that's the way it works, which is what it sounds like to me.

Yes, this is the same as for MIDI devices in general.

MonoxideC · Post by **MonoxideC** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:01 pm

Thanks for the info!

Maybe we can get Midi Out in the future, but in the meantime I did find a standalone device that will do the job for now.

Also, high five on multiple device support!