Wavestation SR Battery Replacement: Is it Bye Bye patches?

Koggie · Post by **Koggie** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:53 am

Just got a wavestation sr and guess what came with it? The ole "battery is low" on power-up. So far all eleven rom banks and their patches are all there. My question to you great members is when I replace the CR2032, are patches going to be lost? Will all eleven wonderful rom banks and their original patches still be there after the change out? If not, please advise the best way to do this operation. I have the battery, the patient (the WS) and a cute nurse.
Thank you.

svennart · Post by **svennart** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:11 am

Don´t worry, the ROM banks will remain even after the battery change,

Koggie · Post by **Koggie** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:28 pm

Thank you svennart for your responce. I read somewhere that once the battery is replaced the unit will copy the same patches from the first bank to all the other banks. Anyone else confirm this.

svennart · Post by **svennart** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:52 pm

dump the ram banks as sysex dumps before you replace the battery

Koggie · Post by **Koggie** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:07 am

Ok, so I'm a newbie when it comes to the sys ex but I know now I need to get up to speed. What is a good editor? Still have not replaced the battery yet because unsure about losing the patches. Anyone else want to chime in and reassure that it's ok to just replace the battery without the sys ex dump (backup).

Thank you.

lloydsmith · Post by **lloydsmith** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:47 pm

It isn't always the case from what I have read - but it is highly likely that you will lose the data.

When I replaced the battery it happened to me. It takes a while to scroll through to determine whether you have got duplicates & missing banks.

I used an editor to restore them - as it's a couple of years ago I forget which editor & where I downloaded them from. KORG prob have them on support download section.

As I am at work - I will look out which editor I used when I get back in studio later.

On playback you need to check the linked performances haven't been corrupted - not all of them use the vectoring but at least some of the bank should be morphing via x & y ccs.

Transmitting sysex should be a 20 min job at the most.

The editor useful for changing patches etc without having to play around with menu screens. However I have not used it for this purpose as of yet!

Koggie · Post by **Koggie** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:35 am

Appreciate your suggestions. I am currently doing some research on editors and the whole sysex thing. Having recently acquired a 01rw and m1rex also, I need to get up to speed on the patch upload//download thing. When I powered up the wavestation sr today the battery low is still there but noticed this time that bank 3 and bank 11 are the same. It wasn't that way two days ago. Wonder what's going on. Guess the battery is telling me that "you better hurry up, or you're going to have 11 banks of the same!" Thoughts?

Koggie · Post by **Koggie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:19 am

Replaced the battery over the weekend. The rom banks 4 - 11 seem ok, but the ram banks 1, 2, and 3 are now duplicates of rom 8,9. and 10. I see that the 3 ram banks are here on the forum for download and was thinking about using midi ox. Does anyone have any experience with this editor and if so, can you give me step-by-step instructions on how to get those three ram banks loaded back into the ws sr.
Thank you.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:07 am

Hi there. I'm not familiar with your model but I'm on my second Wavestation EX. If you've lost sounds you probably have to reload them from Sound cards. I'm not entirely sure if you can find the specific sound data on-line. If you can and do, then you have to find a way of converting it to MIDI data and loading that in.

Just in case you don't know. As far as I can tell, if you don't unplug and turn off your Wavestation you won't lose sounds and if you are careful you can actually replace the battery while it is still plugged in.

Koggie · Post by **Koggie** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:21 am

Thank you Mr. JKeys for your response and suggestion. I did replace the battery last week while the unit was powered-up. Managed not to "shock-it-to-me." Seems that the battery was on its last leg and I did lose rams 1,2, and 3. The good news is that I have the ram files in sysex and just need some help with just how to load them in with an editor.

Happy new year!

lloydsmith · Post by **lloydsmith** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:33 pm

Hi Koggie

Sorry, forgot to check sooner. I used Sound Quest's Wavestation Sysex editor to load the missing banks, it has a WS patch editor which I have yet to use - too many new studio toys last year!

Not too pricey & worked fine.

http://www.squest.com/Windows/Instrumen ... index.html

Oh, just a footnote. Had a false alarm when I thought I had lost performances of wavesequencing but was due to accidentally switching to mono in mixer routing, obviously panning is a big part of many patches.

Happy New Year.

Tim

lloydsmith · Post by **lloydsmith** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:49 am

Had a look at the editor last night and now I remember why I didn't get my head around it. A combination of depressingly crude graphics & no instructions plus reports that it can corrupt patches after editing put me off digging any deeper. I am guessing the smartly styled screens on their page refer to the XL version as they are definitely nowehere to be seen in my program. Googling it - it appears Mdi Quest doesn't get the best of write ups so I felt morally obliged to pass this information onto you. Having said that it did the job of transferring sysex information satisfactorily.

There are free sysex editors such as MidiOx that may be worth a try first. I couldn't get Ox to work for some reason which is why I used MQ. Like I said before it was a few years ago so excuse my vagueness. (my excuse anyway

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