wavering harmonica

rajarshi_sl · Post by **rajarshi_sl** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:29 pm

any idea how to create the waver on the harmonica at2:29 of this x50 demo video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_58WNKYW ... re=related in m50

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:15 pm

Double post.

That's a particularly nice effect and would go well in some solo settings. I may try to dupe it myself.

If you have wha-wha or auto-wha under modulation FX use a moderate amount of wha and tie it to LFO with a .5 second delay so that it is initially clean then modulates.

[That's where I'm gonna start. I'll try to let you know if something else works better.]

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rajarshi_sl · Post by **rajarshi_sl** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:36 am

sorry for the double post...dont know how that happened...i was quite perplexed to see that myself

help needed to get the other post removed from the forum...or forum moderators are requested to delete the other one
but thanks mr. bill....i havestereo wah/auto wah under eq/filter category of ifx......after selecting that the timbre is almost as good as harmonica except fot the vibrato part......the vibrato is not there.....could u kindly explain how to enable that.....that is how to tie it with a lfo!!!

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:14 pm

Rajarshi -

Finally had a chance to sit down and program.

Got good results with following.

In INSERT FX...

ADD - tick connecting box - Talking Modulator (its #13 on Triton Extreme) to the end of whatever chain is currently active on your Harmonica sound. (I say currently active because on the Harmonica sound I used there were "programming artifacts" from another program that was apparently used as a starting point - 5 IFX were programmed; only two were active/used).

Sweep Mode (LFO) - this gives a consistent 'vibrato' rate.

Manual voice: Center - Ribbon control (default setting)

Top voice: U, Center: U, Bottom: A (you need to change so only 2 formants are used)

LFO Freq: ~ 4.2 (to taste) Mod Source: VELOCITY (-)1.00

BPM/Midi: Off .... (default - not applicable)

Formant shift: +4

Wet/Dry: 60:40 Mod Src: Velocity Amt: (-)55

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The velocity modulators make it so at low to moderate volumes the instrument has the slightly filtered vibrato (the formants yuuu-aahh imitate a natural/human mouth cavity - UUO or OOU gives a slightly darker tone variations) that you're looking for.

As you play with more velocity the wah rolls off - as it does when playing a real harmonica louder. At V-128 vibrato is almost completely gone.

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Total program time 0:12 (minutes) - took longer to write the e-mail.

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rajarshi_sl · Post by **rajarshi_sl** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:48 pm

thanks mr bill for ur precious time u took out for dealing with all this.
got to learn something really good from u.....

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:49 pm

Happy to be of help.

Did you program it?

As i said, it was a pretty quick thing once i had time to sit down with it. The Talking Modulator FX seemed to be doing the job, so that's what I stuck with. Was it what you were looking for or did you find yourself changing main FX or parameters?

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StudioF · Post by **StudioF** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:23 am

that's an awesome piece of synthprogramming Mr billbaker. i know my way around synthprogramming, but i would never thought of this.

thank you.

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:43 pm

@StudioF

Thanks for the compliment, it's nice to know someone's gotten some use out of my efforts. Enjoy.

Gotta give bigger props, tho', to the guy who did it first on the video. It's not so difficult to reverse engineer something you hear with your ears and know can be done as it is to sound design something you hear only in your head.

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csteen · Post by **csteen** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:03 pm

Korg M50 Harmonica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJYFtmfbXYE

rajarshi_sl · Post by **rajarshi_sl** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:02 am

hi mr billbaker,

i did program my own harmonica and also the one u suggested.i found the talking modulator approach a bit heavily processed...sometimes seemed take away the natural freshness of a harmonica..but that's my opinion.so i finally settled down with my own which is the one that comes wid m50 .i have routed this to tremolo effect that can be controlled by joy -y.

but tnx alot once again for ur awesome approach and thinking.

regards
rajarshi

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:26 pm

Raj,

Happy you found your sound. Enjoy.

FYI for anyone else looking, I wrote my program on the triton extreme for the m-50, but it would also work on any of the triton series (or other synth with the talking modulator FX) so hopefully theres some cross platform reading going on and others will get the tip too.

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HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:37 pm

billbaker wrote: [...] but it would also work on any of the triton series (or other synth with the talking modulator FX) so hopefully theres some cross platform reading going on and others will get the tip too.

I intend to try this out on my M3 today.

Thanks for the tip.