Jamiroquai String fall

CTravaglini · Post by **CTravaglini** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:46 am

i know this sounds not unique to jamiroqui, but it has become a major part of their sound.

i am searching for a way to replicate (to whatever extent possible) the 70s disco string section fall/stab sound inn my kronos. I've searched a little on the internet to try and find information about this sound, but haven't had much luck. its incredibly noticeable in songs like little l in the chorus, or canned heat. (the canned heat one sounds quite a bit punchier)

I've tried taking a string sound, adjusting the decay to be quite short, and then altering the pitch eg to have the fall, but the initial strike is never strong enough to cut through the mix like the jamiroquai ones.

do you guys have any suggestions on something i could do to help this, or possible point me towards a sample library that already has this sound in it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hHSH9sJUEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4VlA_9OrI

narf · Post by **narf** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:17 am

I've made a program using a strings fall mixed in a combi for Just Dance. PM me your email and I'll send it to you

narf · Post by **narf** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:59 pm

Sorry this took a while...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf1pwqj1efc80 ... 20Drop.PCG

Program U-FF 000 Disco String Fall
Combi U-G 000 Just Dance- It's a split combi with EP on the left side and strings on the right. When played hard, string fall will be heard.

Download file
Transfer to USB
Connect USB to Kronos
Go to Disk Mode
Go to Drive Select and choose your USB
Copy the String Fall.pcg file to your Kronos SSD
Open the .pcg
Open Program Folder
Open U-FF folder
Load U-FF 000 Disco String Fall
Open Combi Folder
Open U-G folder
Load U-G 000 Just Dance

narf · Post by **narf** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:06 pm

To create the program, select a string sound and adjust pitch envelope attack settings. You can also set this up so that it responds to velocity intensity.

Chriskk · Post by **Chriskk** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:58 am

narf wrote:To create the program, select a string sound and adjust pitch envelope attack settings. You can also set this up so that it responds to velocity intensity.

It's not that simple. When you slide down on a string instrument, not only does the pitch change but also the timbre changes because you are increasing the length of the vibrating portion of the string.

CTravaglini · Post by **CTravaglini** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:49 am

the troubles not so much in getting the pitch to lower as it is in the attack of the note. the string samples in the kronos don't have strong attacks like many of the 70's disco string ensembles. the 01/w has a great strong sample which I've attempted to sample and use in the kronos. but i think to fully achieve this sound, you'd need to get the sample from an actual string section!!

I've made a patch up for little l using the 01/w sample. have a listen and see what you think

https://www.dropbox.com/s/emtl7ctcdbuxg ... le%20L.m4a

popmann · Post by **popmann** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:53 am

Sample NI's Session Strings. It's an awful library for general use...but, it was MADE for "disco strings"--with both scoops and falls as part of every sound.

narf · Post by **narf** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:19 am

The Disco String Fall is just the pitch change itself. The combi has it mixed with Tremolo string for the attack sound.

pfrocha · Post by **pfrocha** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:43 pm

CTravaglini wrote:the troubles not so much in getting the pitch to lower as it is in the attack of the note. the string samples in the kronos don't have strong attacks like many of the 70's disco string ensembles. the 01/w has a great strong sample which I've attempted to sample and use in the kronos. but i think to fully achieve this sound, you'd need to get the sample from an actual string section!!

I've made a patch up for little l using the 01/w sample. have a listen and see what you think

https://www.dropbox.com/s/emtl7ctcdbuxg ... le%20L.m4a

That is great! Would you share the Kronos patch?

Rocnuts · Post by **Rocnuts** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:03 pm

Great patch CTravaglini. Please share

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:53 am

The NI ones have a "Motown" mode that is perfect.

Stefpiano · Post by **Stefpiano** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:51 am

Here, disco strings with falls !
http://youtu.be/v8vaAwvnxAc

drdave2002 · Post by **drdave2002** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:23 am

Sounds great but these are for the Motif, is someone working on a Kronos version? or is there a soundset available already?

kaptainkeyboard · Post by **kaptainkeyboard** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:15 am

drdave2002 wrote:Sounds great but these are for the Motif, is someone working on a Kronos version? or is there a soundset available already?

Here ye go...

2 Progs in USER-EE - 1 with Vel Switched Falls and another with Vel Switched Scoop.
I didn't spent too much time on this last night, so you may want to do some editing to get it right.

Edit:-
Just noticed I had some Top End Boost on the Amp/EQ Page - probably best you adjust this to taste....

Edit 2 - Sorry guys, I'll fix some errors today and re-upload.

drdave2002 · Post by **drdave2002** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:26 pm

YOU ARE A STAR !!!!

Awesome, can't wait to get out of work now!!
.... actually as i think about it, this makes me sad that i can't go now and play with my Kronos, you've ruined my day!!!

Only joking !!!

Thanks, really appreciate it.

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