Vintage Sine Lead on Kronos
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:35 am
Im a former M50 user. Seems I can't find a Vintage sine lead preset on Kronos.
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:38 am
With three VA engines and a better version of the M50s own engine, it shouldn't be too hard to make one? Any special properties it should have?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:15 am
Check again, i have a preset called precisely "vintage sine lead" on my Kronos and I can't remember that I programmed it myself.
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:09 am
Open the VNL PDF. Search "sine". Should be able to find a few. Season to taste.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:16 pm
i'm looking for the same sounds, and believe me...
NO KRONOS PROGRAM PROVIDES IT..
You'll have to create it using HD-1 engine, using sine waves from Jup 8 or moog for a very vintage sound..
If i have time, i'll share it for you tomorrow..
NO KRONOS PROGRAM PROVIDES IT..
You'll have to create it using HD-1 engine, using sine waves from Jup 8 or moog for a very vintage sound..
If i have time, i'll share it for you tomorrow..
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:21 pm
What's dissapointing about polysix, AL-1 and MS-20 on kronos is:SanderXpander wrote:With three VA engines and a better version of the M50s own engine, it shouldn't be too hard to make one? Any special properties it should have?
THEY HAVE NO SINE WAVEFORM
The only way is from either MOD-7 and HD-1... But i do recommend using HD-1, as from noob's point of view (i'm a noob), MOD-7 is hard to program..
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:03 pm
Triangle is pretty much the same. The Minimoog doesn't have a sine either.
Also, while they are often called sine leads, a true sine or triangle is often too dark so some pulse/square or even saw often gets mixed in with a dark filter setting.
Also, while they are often called sine leads, a true sine or triangle is often too dark so some pulse/square or even saw often gets mixed in with a dark filter setting.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:18 am
Hope you can share your sine PCG here. That would be awesome.1jordyzzz wrote:i'm looking for the same sounds, and believe me...
NO KRONOS PROGRAM PROVIDES IT..
You'll have to create it using HD-1 engine, using sine waves from Jup 8 or moog for a very vintage sound..
If i have time, i'll share it for you tomorrow..
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:58 am
A triangle consists of only a very few frequencies. They are all sinusodial (Fouriertransformation from time to frequency domain!). You can use the filter and keyboard traking to eliminate all but the lowest. With keytracking it´s possible to do that for all keys. If you modulate the pitch with LFO you get a nice legacy(=unstable) sine wave.1jordyzzz wrote:What's dissapointing about polysix, AL-1 and MS-20 on kronos is:SanderXpander wrote:With three VA engines and a better version of the M50s own engine, it shouldn't be too hard to make one? Any special properties it should have?
THEY HAVE NO SINE WAVEFORM
The only way is from either MOD-7 and HD-1... But i do recommend using HD-1, as from noob's point of view (i'm a noob), MOD-7 is hard to program..
There are good books out there: "How to make a noise." for example.
http://www.amazon.de/How-Make-Noise-Syn ... 772&sr=8-4
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:08 pm
Thanks!! Will try to find ebook of it.. I'm really interested in sound design.. But i have no clue what fourier transformation is..Saxifraga wrote:A triangle consists of only a very few frequencies. They are all sinusodial (Fouriertransformation from time to frequency domain!). You can use the filter and keyboard traking to eliminate all but the lowest. With keytracking it´s possible to do that for all keys. If you modulate the pitch with LFO you get a nice legacy(=unstable) sine wave.1jordyzzz wrote:What's dissapointing about polysix, AL-1 and MS-20 on kronos is:SanderXpander wrote:With three VA engines and a better version of the M50s own engine, it shouldn't be too hard to make one? Any special properties it should have?
THEY HAVE NO SINE WAVEFORM
The only way is from either MOD-7 and HD-1... But i do recommend using HD-1, as from noob's point of view (i'm a noob), MOD-7 is hard to program..
There are good books out there: "How to make a noise." for example.
http://www.amazon.de/How-Make-Noise-Syn ... 772&sr=8-4
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:40 pm
He gives away his "How to make a noise" ebook free from his website.1jordyzzz wrote:Thanks!! Will try to find ebook of it.. I'm really interested in sound design.. But i have no clue what fourier transformation is..Saxifraga wrote: There are good books out there: "How to make a noise." for example.
http://www.amazon.de/How-Make-Noise-Syn ... 772&sr=8-4
http://noisesculpture.com/how-to-make-a-noise
You can get kindle versions of his more specific books (FM, analog, etc) from Amazon.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:48 pm
It´s a mathematical theory in physics. It describes every time signal, like a sound, that is periodic, as an infinite sum of sine or cosine functions.Thanks!! Will try to find ebook of it.. I'm really interested in sound design.. But i have no clue what Fourier transformation is..
Our ear transforms this signal all the time into vibrations of the basilar membrane. What we hear is a spectrum of frequencies that changes with time.
So a triangle has not many sinus functions and a square wave has many.
Also because of this a single sinus is not very loud and a square wave has much more power in it because of all the sinus waves and their amplitudes adding up.
Hope I could be helpful.
