Hmmmm Kronos piano compared to the RD700nx

videorov · Post by **videorov** » Sat May 18, 2013 12:11 am

I can hear a diffrence. I wonder if Korg has improved on their sound.
I thought the Kronos had more control on the touch then this.
Kronos piano lacks multi level dynamics those people say on this
video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1wjGHOED2I

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sat May 18, 2013 12:49 am

YouTube audio quality = meh

videorov · Post by **videorov** » Sat May 18, 2013 1:54 am

I don't think this guy has listened to the new sound Library with
all the new sounds that are out.
They are amazing.
Like this video with amazing sounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0BdVR7LirU

I will take the Kronos over anything out there today.

Diego5150 · Post by **Diego5150** » Sat May 18, 2013 2:22 am

Funny that the Roland is compared to the Kronos because I saw a video with the Roland stage piano and the girl was play a RD700 and that is what spurred me to look into getting a new keyboard. I chose a workstation because I was looking for more than just a piano and was set to buy the Yamaha Motif until I saw and played the Kronos.
I do think the Roland Pianos are a more rich sounding than the Kronos but the Kronos is such an awesome machine. I have no regrets whatsoever.

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sat May 18, 2013 3:51 am

I wonder how much has to do with setting your curves as well. Someone here me ruined velocity of 7 being perfect so I have been running with that today Intried others Nd found I prefer 4 now. I can control the loud was so much better now. Before the very soft playing was really hard now I can play so soft I can hardly hear a note of plenty loud. Everyone is different and the tool, in this case needs to be tweaked to the user like a good suspension on a bike.

1jordyzzz · Post by **1jordyzzz** » Sat May 18, 2013 5:45 am

Check my video on the signature.. It's mono, but worthed it..

On a very neutral opinion here, RD pianos are good.. Even though they are 3 layer only, but its like having multiple layer.. But i don't like it's sustain.. clearly it's looped.. plus, the damper pedal noise and damper resonance are all fake....

Kronos on the other hand, you can tweak it to your liking. I really love having + 4 db on a real sampled damper resonance.. It's like recording a real piano with kronos.. It's also recorded in 8 layer velocity...

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Sat May 18, 2013 9:07 am

I agree, the RD700 is very playable and may do better in a band in some cases, but the Kronos is much more realistic.

lonelagranger · Post by **lonelagranger** » Sat May 18, 2013 11:54 am

I love my Kronos and think the pianos are very good. However, if you want very realistic pianos then I think you have to go software. The piano I use for every day practicing is a Roland X8 as controller and Ivory as the piano engine. For me, I haven't found anything better. Of course, piano sounds are all personal preferences. What sound good to one may not to another. The same is true of acoustic pianos.

1jordyzzz · Post by **1jordyzzz** » Sat May 18, 2013 2:59 pm

lonelagranger wrote:I love my Kronos and think the pianos are very good. However, if you want very realistic pianos then I think you have to go software. The piano I use for every day practicing is a Roland X8 as controller and Ivory as the piano engine. For me, I haven't found anything better. Of course, piano sounds are all personal preferences. What sound good to one may not to another. The same is true of acoustic pianos.

i say, If you want very realistic pianos, then you should go with acoustic piano..

lonelagranger · Post by **lonelagranger** » Sat May 18, 2013 6:43 pm

i say, If you want very realistic pianos, then you should go with acoustic piano

Totally agree, if you can afford a concert grand. On the other hand Ivory is a lot cheaper and much easier to carry around.

Low Class · Post by **Low Class** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:48 pm

lonelagranger wrote:
i say, If you want very realistic pianos, then you should go with acoustic piano
Totally agree, if you can afford a concert grand. On the other hand Ivory is a lot cheaper and much easier to carry around.

...and Galaxy Vintage D is even cheaper. Sounds better too IMO.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:57 pm

I had the NX predecessor, the GX1. A big positive is the outstanding keybed feel of the Rd. I would give it a '10' and the RH3 an '8.5' in terms of a keybed comparison.

As far as shaping, Eq'g , Fx, lid, damper noise, etc, etc, adjusting the various Kronos acoustic pianos, it rates as a 9.8 given the outstanding versatility of the Kronos AP's.

I am not overly impressed by these youtube comparisons ( and the dubious audio quality) since all they do is compare a preset or 2 ( or 3). This youTube simply does not exploit or explain what can be done with the Kronos AP's.

Hal2001 · Post by **Hal2001** » Sat May 18, 2013 8:10 pm

IMHO the Kronos and Nord Stage II have the most realistic quality sounds Ive ever heard on a digital keyboard. The first time I played the K I was blown away by the unlooped sustain, something I only experienced on a Grand Piano before. The main reason I bought the K over the Nord was the 9 synth engines, Karma and Smooth Sound Transition. The main things I miss from the Nord are the easier on the fly functionality of direct button control access to some functions without going through submenus. With the K's multitude of sound design configuration options Ive been able to tweak and achieve any variation of piano sound I desire so it's all there if you go for it. I think the K is an amazing achievement made affordable when before I could only dream of an Oasys. And the Kronos is even better than the O.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun May 19, 2013 12:48 pm

1jordyzzz wrote:On a very neutral opinion here, RD pianos are good.. Even though they are 3 layer only, but its like having multiple layer.. But i don't like it's sustain.. clearly it's looped..

As I understand it, there should be no looping or distinct layers on the RD700NX piano, as they use modeling for the velocity and decay parameters. Maybe you were comparing an earlier version of the RD?

1jordyzzz · Post by **1jordyzzz** » Sun May 19, 2013 2:52 pm

Scott wrote:
1jordyzzz wrote:On a very neutral opinion here, RD pianos are good.. Even though they are 3 layer only, but its like having multiple layer.. But i don't like it's sustain.. clearly it's looped..
As I understand it, there should be no looping or distinct layers on the RD700NX piano, as they use modeling for the velocity and decay parameters. Maybe you were comparing an earlier version of the RD?

I thought that GX has same pianos as NX

So did RD-700 NX uses supernatural modelling as in V-Piano?? if so, weird decay ringing will not be present (as it did on GX series), assuming that NX DOES NOT USE SAMPLES AS IT'S BASE MODELLING INGREDIENTS... I'll check the NX when i have time..

BTW take a look at this:
http://thekronosblog.blogspot.com/2011/ ... erior.html

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Hmmmm Kronos piano compared to the RD700nx

Hmmmm Kronos piano compared to the RD700nx

Kronos sounds and I think they are great