Kronos with some imperfect characteristics !

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:13 am

Hello to everyone from Korg,

Specially Kronos owner. I am glad to be one of the user of Korg Kronos X 73.
Kronos is a great instrument but with some imperfect characteristics:

1. Some programs are too load (unbalanced outgain).
2. Percussions are to loud in combies.
3. Some sounds in combies has distortion ( maybe my headphones, but I am not sure in Kurzweil PC3LE all setups are with perfect sound).
4. Piano sound shell be better (like Motif Xf). I hope that this it will be a main subject for new OS update (v.2.2).
I want to thanks to sound team of Korg Kronos and all musician involve in process of creating KRS-06. Really impressive B3 sound.

Good luck and inspirationally playing with your Kronos!

runningman67 · Post by **runningman67** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:18 pm

Hi
I agree that some percussion tracks are too loud but it easy enough to change, I've never experienced distortion and the piano thing is subjective. I love the pianos, especially QuiRobinez's piano patches.

I still think that the Kronos is such an accomplished piece of kit all on one machine, amazing value for money.

gesucca · Post by **gesucca** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:37 pm

I've never had any distortion issue, since my PA system is efficient. The volumes are not well leveled in the preset, that's true, and the drum track level is way too loud that it should be in my opinion, but there's absolutely no unwanted distortion to me.

have you checked another headphones set?

For the piano, we have the 'better' sampled piano that simply exist in a workstation. No digital synthetizer can do something 'better' than a chromatic sampling with incredible long natural decays. Don't stuck at the presets and start editing, you will find that the huge raw piano sample the Kronos has is very versatile.

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:16 pm

Thanks for your reply!
When I wrote, that piano sounds shell be better, I mean fabric piano sounds.
I know that exist very good sampled sounds and other kind of piano patches that sounds much more better then fabric (but we have to buy it). I mean that Korg have to upgrade fabric piano sounds in next OS rev..
WS with reputation of best WS for 2011, 2012 and 2013 deserve it.

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:35 pm

Just want to point out that everything on your list are subjective and changeable by you. Which to my mind is part of what makes todays keyboards great. You can set those balances and volumes to whatever you want. Load in some more pianos if you don't like the stock sounds (although I read a lot of comments about how great the pianos are)

I personally hope any future updates are similar to the last one and address any issues we can't fix on our own. Tweaking your patches to be just what you want is part of what a workstation is all about IMO.

bugzoo · Post by **bugzoo** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:32 pm

I have found a few factory Combis in the Kronos that have a bit of unwanted overload distortion in them when you play chords in a certain pitch range. When I get a chance I will try to go through and make a list.

I agree that the drum and percussion in many of the Programs and Combis is too loud.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:16 pm

Pedja wrote:Thanks for your reply!
When I wrote, that piano sounds shell be better, I mean fabric piano sounds.
I know that exist very good sampled sounds and other kind of piano patches that sounds much more better then fabric (but we have to buy it). I mean that Korg have to upgrade fabric piano sounds in next OS rev..
WS with reputation of best WS for 2011, 2012 and 2013 deserve it.

Taste is subjective, and the Motif piano can be nice in a band context, but the Kronos grands are definitely a whole lot more like a real piano than anything available on other workstations.

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:54 am

bugzoo wrote:I have found a few factory Combis in the Kronos that have a bit of unwanted overload distortion in them when you play chords in a certain pitch range. When I get a chance I will try to go through and make a list.

I agree that the drum and percussion in many of the Programs and Combis is too loud.

I played last night and I noticed one more fabric combi with noise in background, when I skip to next or previous noise disappear. I forgot a name of this fabric combi, but I will check on Kronos and mention in my next post.
Thanks for reply, because I fill before your suggestion that I am in some paranioa trip in witch I heard some distorsion sounds in combies, loud percussions and...Thanks!

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:01 am

Pedja wrote: I played last night and I noticed one more fabric combi with noise in background, when I skip to next or previous noise disappear. I forgot a name of this fabric combi, but I will check on Kronos and mention in my next post.

could be an insert effect, there are some factory combis that adds noise effects to simulate for instance an old record sound. Also sometimes the Bitrate is reduced to make the sound more grainy from a sound, that could also sound distorted in someones ears, but in that case it's also an intended effect by the sounddesigner.

Just give the name and location of a combi that sounds wrong according to you and i will check if it's intended to sound like that or not

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Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:08 am

QuiRobinez wrote:
Pedja wrote: I played last night and I noticed one more fabric combi with noise in background, when I skip to next or previous noise disappear. I forgot a name of this fabric combi, but I will check on Kronos and mention in my next post.
could be an insert effect, there are some factory combis that adds noise effects to simulate for instance an old record sound. Also sometimes the Bitrate is reduced to make the sound more grainy from a sound, that could also sound distorted in someones ears, but in that case it's also an intended effect by the sounddesigner.

Just give the name and location of a combi that sounds wrong according to you and i will check if it's intended to sound like that or not .

Thanks I will, when I will be at home, near my Kronos (now I am in my job).

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:59 am

I tried hard, last night, to find and replicate noise sound but I didn't manage. When I return film to start, I mean that was a Combi - Organic Funk I-B083. I had a constant noise in background od organ sound but again I didn't replicate this last night. Maybe some combination of last used sounds produced this, I am not sure, or power or .....
Thanks to QuiRobinez and all outers for attention and suggestions.
I have to say that I use Qui free sound collections and they are excellent!

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:26 am

Last Night I found combies with sound distortion:

1. Combi I-D009 Butterfly Jam
2. Combi I-D005
If you find some put it in the list.
Thanks.

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:56 am

have to say that I am little bit disappoint with final update 2.1.1, in segment of sound. In some combies (A026 Tribal Dancers, A054 Dance Of The Spirits...) sound distortion is stronger! Some Programs like A028 J.Lorber MarkV EP w/Pad (much more worse then before), sound of EP now is with stronger effect of hammer strike witch is with little unclear and distortion sound in the end. I noticed before some unclear combies and sounds but now it is worse.
Thanks for your attention.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:24 am

Those sounds should not be affected by the update ar all.

Pedja · Post by **Pedja** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:36 pm

Thanks SanderXpander,

for reply can you be little precise in your statement. They changed some characteristics which is in correlation with sounds.