Mute not working in sequencer mode
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Stephen Garside
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Mute not working in sequencer mode
Software version 2.1. When creating a backing track for our band, i noticed a possible bug in sequencer mode where mute doesnt work. I start a new song, leave everything in its default settings and record a short piece on track 1. Then I set track 2 to use the same midi channel and set its transpose to -12. When I play back the song track 2 sounds an octave lower as id expect. But now muting track 2 doesnt work unless the mute setting in global settings is set to Live. I think this is wrong, Studio mute setting should mute the output of the audio for track 2. I can after all change to instrument on track 2 to say an organ and that plays the piece an octave lower as an organ but I cannot mute track 2 alone in studio mode. Muting track 1 mutes both the piano and organ. I think this is a bug.
Not a bug, I believe.
In Sequencer mode, "Studio" mutes control only sequencer MIDI input to tracks. "Live" mutes control both keyboard input and sequencer MIDI input to tracks. Whereas in Combi mode, "Studio" mutes control the audio output of timbres.
Since both of your tracks are set to the same MIDI channel, only the track with recorded data (track 1) will mute both timbres together.
See page 751 in the Parameter Guide for confirmation.
In Sequencer mode, "Studio" mutes control only sequencer MIDI input to tracks. "Live" mutes control both keyboard input and sequencer MIDI input to tracks. Whereas in Combi mode, "Studio" mutes control the audio output of timbres.
Since both of your tracks are set to the same MIDI channel, only the track with recorded data (track 1) will mute both timbres together.
See page 751 in the Parameter Guide for confirmation.
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Stephen Garside
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Thanks for the reply, and i have read that part of the manual, but it still makes no sense to me. For one if the only difference between Live and Studio mute in sequencer mode is that live also mutes keyboard input, why does this make a difference in my case when im not playing the keyboard anyway? Secondly, if midi input to track 2 is muted, why does it still sound then? The midi is coming from track 1 yes but track 2 should ignore it if that's the case.
You're welcome.
Really can't answer your first question, sorry. Didn't design the Kronos and, for some strange reason, the nice folks at KORG utterly failed to consult with me when they designed it.
My recommendation as a workaround is to temporarily change track 2 to an unused MIDI channel in your song, if you have an unused one that is. Alternatively, temporarily turn down the volume on track 2.
A third option is that it may be possible to use the mutes as you want for track 2 by setting it to, say, MIDI channel 2, and then use the KARMA "Track Thru (When KARMA off))" functionality on the GE Setup/Key Zones screen. Track Thru (When KARMA OFF) (pg 597) is the same as Timbre Thru in a combi (pg 474). In theory, it should mean that track 2 is independent from track one, in respect of muting anyway. I'm unsure if this option will work (don't have a Kronos to test it on), but hey, it's worth a try if you don't want to use the other workarounds above. The downside is that you lose a recordable track.
A fourth option is to copy all the track 1 data to track 2 and set track to another MIDI channel. This isn't a good option, particularly if you decide to change track 1 later in the song and it's unnecessarily redundant. You also lose a recordable track, but the mute will work. Although if needed you can free up the track later by deleting the data on it and reassigning it to track 1's MIDI channel.
As for your second question, I suppose the sequencer considers both tracks as only one layered MIDI track (which it is), despite being in separate track slots in the sequencer.
Really can't answer your first question, sorry. Didn't design the Kronos and, for some strange reason, the nice folks at KORG utterly failed to consult with me when they designed it.
My recommendation as a workaround is to temporarily change track 2 to an unused MIDI channel in your song, if you have an unused one that is. Alternatively, temporarily turn down the volume on track 2.
A third option is that it may be possible to use the mutes as you want for track 2 by setting it to, say, MIDI channel 2, and then use the KARMA "Track Thru (When KARMA off))" functionality on the GE Setup/Key Zones screen. Track Thru (When KARMA OFF) (pg 597) is the same as Timbre Thru in a combi (pg 474). In theory, it should mean that track 2 is independent from track one, in respect of muting anyway. I'm unsure if this option will work (don't have a Kronos to test it on), but hey, it's worth a try if you don't want to use the other workarounds above. The downside is that you lose a recordable track.
A fourth option is to copy all the track 1 data to track 2 and set track to another MIDI channel. This isn't a good option, particularly if you decide to change track 1 later in the song and it's unnecessarily redundant. You also lose a recordable track, but the mute will work. Although if needed you can free up the track later by deleting the data on it and reassigning it to track 1's MIDI channel.
As for your second question, I suppose the sequencer considers both tracks as only one layered MIDI track (which it is), despite being in separate track slots in the sequencer.