Korg Kross - are the sounds sample based?

[wadeal]

The diagram in the Kross manual showing the signal flow shows two oscillators going through the usual filters, LFOS, Envelope generators, amps etc to create and tweak the sound. This would suggest that it is using the oscillators to create and filter the sounds (pure subtractive synthesis). However, when I look at the P-OSC page, I get offered four multi-samples per oscillator - suggesting that the synth is using samples of real instruments and then mangling them with the oscillators and the rest of the components.

My question is, are the oscillators creating the sound and modelling the instruments, or are they simply mangling samples of real instruments already in the machine (in the same way as one can load WAV files sa samples into a sampler like Kontakt and apply tweaks to them with filters and effects patches?)

I suspect that in this modernage, the Korg uses moe than pure subtractive synthesis and I understand that the Kross uses the Korg EDS architecture, but there is no mention of samples in their attempt to describe what EDS is. Hence my confusion.

[Grumster]

Hi I guess you've probably found the answer by now, but yes, the Kross is all sample based I'm afraid. There's no VA stuff on the Kross at all (it was never marketed as such to be fair). So you won't find any decent PWM tones on the thing (there are but they'll start from the same phase each time as they're a sample).

[tommymandel]

they'll start from the same phase each time as they're a sample.

You just gave me an idea: what if you use an AMS to modulate the start time in a semi random and tiny amount? Wouldn't that add some different phase relationships? (not sure)