How to get this guitar-sound ???

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How to get this guitar-sound ???

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I have seen this fine video. How to get this guitar sound on a Pa 900 ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WCojk0NSIo
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Factory preset...Nothing special... I do not use Korg distortion\overdrive guitars at all,they are very bad... Samples only.

Korg,please,do something about for the new flagship.... Distortion \overdrive guitars sounds like chainsaw :(
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Great guitar demos have nothing to do with great guitar 'sounds'... It is about the player, pure and simple! The world's greatest VSTi guitar sound, in the hands of someone not playing idiomatically, still sounds like a pile of poo! And very underwhelming guitar sounds, played by a genius at guitar emulation sounds amazing!

Sorry, but there's no shortcut for this one. Long and hard practice is needed to leverage a decent guitar sound into a great guitar PERFORMANCE.

And, quit expecting the manufacturer to come up with distorted guitar samples! Start to think like a guitarist... Start with a CLEAN guitar sample. Strat, Tele, Gibson, whatever. Even most of the jazz guitars are a decent jumping off point. But now do what a guitarist does - feed it into an amp (in your case, an amp simulator)... Run it through some pedals first (in your case, an MFX chain)... slather it with delay, in sync with the song tempo (guitarists are big into timed delay!). And pay critical attention to not overdriving those effects until you really dig in.

All of a sudden, you've something that actually feels and responds like a rock guitar. Samples just don't cut it. Distortion is a sum of how HARD you are playing, and how many notes you are playing, and whether they are consonant or dissonant. You can't get that from a sample. It's too interactive.

But sorry guys... there just is no shortcut. Shed. Shed your brains out! You know, just like guitarists do! :twisted:
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Dikikeys wrote:Great guitar demos have nothing to do with great guitar 'sounds'... It is about the player, pure and simple!
While this whole post was great, the above is absolutely 100% true. I have experienced this first hand time and time again with many pieces of equipment. I was in a guitar center many years ago listening to a few guys jam away. Two guys were playing organs and one guy sounded so much better. One of the was playing a Yamaha S90, one of the better sounding boards at the time, and the other guy was playing a used Ensoniq MR76. The sound on the Yamaha was far and away the more realistic and better sounding when played one note, it was obvious. Yet the guy on the MR76 was an amazing player and when he was playing people were like wow, that is an amazing sounding keyboard, in reality it was the player who made that keyboard sound great and better than the other guy playing the S90.

One memorable time a guy bought in a little casio portable keyboard, the older ctk model to use on a studio recording. The techs I worked with smirked and had their doubts. He was a great player and made the recording sound like he used a pro keyboard. I look at this way, if I picked up a Korg Kronos and played and Jordan Rudess picked up a crappy toy keyboard and played, he would sound much better than me, because he is the better player by far.
And there was this one time at band camp......
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what preset sound

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could you please state the guitar preset that was asked about.
I think the question might have been more concretely
where is this GUITAR sound on the KORG PA3x?

thanks
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Re: what preset sound

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losackmd2 wrote:could you please state the guitar preset that was asked about.
I think the question might have been more concretely
where is this GUITAR sound on the KORG PA3x?

thanks
Well since the video is on a pa3X LE; I am not sure if anyone has one of those to post the exact sound location on, especially since it hasn't been officially released. If its a stock sound, it should be pretty easy to find if the OP could play one or someone who has the LE version could post it when is available.
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Post by sch »

If this is "just" an ordinary preset factory sound, then I would like to know what it is called, and learn about the settings. I am also a guitarist and I was very impressed with the quality of the sound, and not just the exelent playing. Using the Pa's as a composer tool is so rewarding, and the mixture of real guitar with convincing Pa-sounds opens up new dimesions in composing...
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maybe someone will chime in here

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anyone???????????????
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Great guitar demos have nothing to do with great guitar 'sounds'... It is about the player, pure and simple!
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"Clean Dist Gtr" comes close but it is all about the playing and joystick usage……

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Post by sch »

Comes close......but as a relatively trained guitarist, I have a good ear for guitar sounds, and the sound from the video has a autencity to it, that I don't seem to find in the mentioned preset...maybe it's a mixed performance..?
I don't completely agree with the "sound don't matter" thing. I have heard
hundred of gifted keyboardplayers and demonstrators, trying to copy guitarsolo's on a keyboard, but to my critical ears, they all came short, mostly because their (often expensive) keyboards simply couldn't deliver the expression and "quality" of the real thing.....this ist the first time, that I'm truely impressed.......
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is it the effects

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what style was it done on
id like to know myself

i find the KORG guitars tiresome except just a few and effects must be added

could you clarify 1000+
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