Saving midi file changes

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Saving midi file changes

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I recorded some midi files using the style, etc. I went into the sequencer, loaded the midi file, and adjusted the volumes of one or two of the tracks. I then saved the file. When I called it up again, the volumes hadn't changed. Is anybody aware of the reason why this info can't be saved? The only way I found around this was to insert a volume change via event edit. Thanks in advance for your help. :?: javascript:emoticon('](*,)')
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dougmccu wrote:I recorded some midi files using the style, etc. I went into the sequencer, loaded the midi file, and adjusted the volumes of one or two of the tracks. I then saved the file. When I called it up again, the volumes hadn't changed. Is anybody aware of the reason why this info can't be saved? The only way I found around this was to insert a volume change via event edit. Thanks in advance for your help. :?: javascript:emoticon('](*,)')
Try after adjust volume save as new (different name) midi file.
I remember once I had similar problem, never deeply investigate, but if I save as new, after call a new one, was OK , :)
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Post by Sam CA »

Also make sure there aren't any unwanted volume change events hiding in there. If there's more than one they tend to cancel out each other . If your individual tracks are clean, I don't see why you couldn't save volume change events. I've never encountered this problem.
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Yes... Most DAW's, if you set the volume of a track using the Mixer, it will insert the volume command at 1.0.0.

However, if it's an imported MIDI file to start with, you can often find that the volume commands that were originally in the SMF start a few ticks later (a lot of commercial file makers stagger the setup data, to prevent data choking), so they will over-ride YOUR initial volume command.

Some sequencers can 'grab' the first volume command, and remove it from the list, so that the Mixer's volume reflects the file's original volume but it is no longer in the data list to override the mixer...

And finally, you often have to doublecheck your DAW/Sequencer's MIDI export settings, as some of them need you to tick on 'Export Mixer settings' or something similar.

If a track contains several Volume commands (or a boatload of them if someone did a fade in/out using Volume!), obviously it's a PITA to go in and edit them all to get a sound globally louder or quieter, but many DAW's allow you to 'transform' MIDI Volume commands (CC7) into MIDI Expression (CC11), and then that allows you to put just the one Volume command at the start of the track, and the track's dynamics are now done by Expression. This is by far the best way...
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