No Son of Mine: Collins (Video Sample)

[enigmahack]

I didn't do the typical reconstruction of sounds like I normally would on this one, mostly because I didn't have the time to set everything up. That said, I did want to put this in a separate thread because:
A - It's pretty cool.
B - It's Phil Collins. I mean, c'mon.
C - It's also a small demo of the song
D - It's free. You're welcome

Here's the info you need.

Programs load into User DD and EE banks, Combi into EE. There *ARE* multisamples involved with this, but the files are located below:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q4gay4yxzuvk ... 2MAja?dl=0

I have included the guitar sample Wav as well as the tick-tock Wav files for your own use there as well, in case you wanted to load them into something else other than your Kronos. I won't judge. (Maybe a little)

Here's the demo video explaining where everything is located, and how to play it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2BHh6JL5SU

If you have questions, comments, ideas, suggestions, whatever - let me know. I'm open to feedback, though I feel like this is pretty accurate on most accounts (except the bass drum. I wasn't really trying to be super accurate with that one though)

Oh, one important thing to note:
In the video I said that E2 will trigger both the guitar and bass kick. I changed it so that E2 is guitar only, F2 is Bass Kick (On a loop) and F#2 is the clock sound. I did this because I performed the song wrong, not realizing that the kick actually comes in after the clock but before the rest of the keyboards. I've since modified the PCG to reflect this, but the video remains as is, because I'm heading to bed now

[Rookwood]

Great! Sounds perfect. Thank you!

[StephenKay]

Great Song! That's actually Genesis, off of We Can't Dance, not just Collins... not that it matters.

[DanielD71]

Very good !!!

You'll probably make a bank at this pace
Regards,

[enigmahack]

Great Song! That's actually Genesis, off of We Can't Dance, not just Collins... not that it matters.

This is a good point and it DOES matter. I'm sure it matters to the rest of the members of Genesis at least haha.

[alanjpearson]

I don't know - as Genesis fan I found it hard to tell the difference later on

[drama1]

This guy is unbelievable!!!!!

[Derek Cook]

I don't know - as Genesis fan I found it hard to tell the difference later on

Hear, hear. it's Classic Genesis for me up to Wind and Wuthering ("Selling England..." and "Trick..." are my favourites). Duke is OK, but weak in production, Abacab and Genesis have a few good songs on them (love Mama and Home by The See, and the live versions of Abacab and Dodo). Invisible Touch - far too 80s. We Can't Dance, OK. Loved "Calling All stations" and disappointed they called it a day after failing to crack America with it.

Back OT, thanks for sharing again EnigmaHack; there is no stopping you!

[benny ray]

Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work.

[studio429]

Thank you so much Can't wait to load it up and try it.

David

[Diego5150]

Great job. Perfectionism at it's best!!

[geoelectro]

I don't know - as Genesis fan I found it hard to tell the difference later on

Hear, hear. it's Classic Genesis for me up to Wind and Wuthering ("Selling England..." and "Trick..." are my favourites). Duke is OK, but weak in production, Abacab and Genesis have a few good songs on them (love Mama and Home by The See, and the live versions of Abacab and Dodo). Invisible Touch - far too 80s. We Can't Dance, OK. Loved "Calling All stations" and disappointed they called it a day after failing to crack America with it.

Back OT, thanks for sharing again EnigmaHack; there is no stopping you!

I agree with all the above except Invisible touch. I played in a band in the 80's and LOVE the 80's. Invisible touch was played loudly on our radio as we traveled to the gigs!

Geo

[Derek Cook]

I don't know - as Genesis fan I found it hard to tell the difference later on

Hear, hear. it's Classic Genesis for me up to Wind and Wuthering ("Selling England..." and "Trick..." are my favourites). Duke is OK, but weak in production, Abacab and Genesis have a few good songs on them (love Mama and Home by The See, and the live versions of Abacab and Dodo). Invisible Touch - far too 80s. We Can't Dance, OK. Loved "Calling All stations" and disappointed they called it a day after failing to crack America with it.

Back OT, thanks for sharing again EnigmaHack; there is no stopping you!

I agree with all the above except Invisible touch. I played in a band in the 80's and LOVE the 80's. Invisible touch was played loudly on our radio as we traveled to the gigs!

Geo

There was of course some great 80s music, but for me Invisible Touch is too digital, too much electric drums and the songs were OK, quite enjoyable, but not a patch on the older stuff. I love synthesizers, but hate electric drums; it has to be dead animal skin on wood for me!

Each to his own of course

[jorgemncardoso]

I didn't do the typical reconstruction of sounds like I normally would on this one, mostly because I didn't have the time to set everything up. That said, I did want to put this in a separate thread because:
A - It's pretty cool.
B - It's Phil Collins. I mean, c'mon.
C - It's also a small demo of the song
D - It's free. You're welcome

Here's the info you need.

Programs load into User DD and EE banks, Combi into EE. There *ARE* multisamples involved with this, but the files are located below:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q4gay4yxzuvk ... 2MAja?dl=0

I have included the guitar sample Wav as well as the tick-tock Wav files for your own use there as well, in case you wanted to load them into something else other than your Kronos. I won't judge. (Maybe a little)

Here's the demo video explaining where everything is located, and how to play it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2BHh6JL5SU

If you have questions, comments, ideas, suggestions, whatever - let me know. I'm open to feedback, though I feel like this is pretty accurate on most accounts (except the bass drum. I wasn't really trying to be super accurate with that one though)

Oh, one important thing to note:
In the video I said that E2 will trigger both the guitar and bass kick. I changed it so that E2 is guitar only, F2 is Bass Kick (On a loop) and F#2 is the clock sound. I did this because I performed the song wrong, not realizing that the kick actually comes in after the clock but before the rest of the keyboards. I've since modified the PCG to reflect this, but the video remains as is, because I'm heading to bed now

Mate, thankyou so bloddy much for this mainly for the "Elephant Sample", that's the nickname for the guitar sample bit in Genesis world
I made my version of the Elephant Sample from an mp3 of the original guitar riff sampled by Tony Banks on the Emulator back on the We Can't Dance recording sessions available on the Karma Lab forum:

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showpost ... stcount=15

It's the original time sample first ant then the slowed version that was the basis for the final elephant sample Tony used on No Son of Mine.
I've always feel like just slowing it down didn't do the trick fully, it always seemed a bit off tempo, so my guess is Tony tweeked it a bit more for the final version.
Your version is sopt on!! How did you get it, or what did you do to get it perfect, if you don't mind my asking?

[enigmahack]

Mate, thankyou so bloddy much for this mainly for the "Elephant Sample", that's the nickname for the guitar sample bit in Genesis world
I made my version of the Elephant Sample from an mp3 of the original guitar riff sampled by Tony Banks on the Emulator back on the We Can't Dance recording sessions available on the Karma Lab forum:

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showpost ... stcount=15

It's the original time sample first ant then the slowed version that was the basis for the final elephant sample Tony used on No Son of Mine.
I've always feel like just slowing it down didn't do the trick fully, it always seemed a bit off tempo, so my guess is Tony tweeked it a bit more for the final version.
Your version is sopt on!! How did you get it, or what did you do to get it perfect, if you don't mind my asking?

Thanks!

I got the sample from the same place you did, but I had to time stretch the sample without changing the pitch a bit. I mean, I changed the pitch FIRST, which also increased how long the sample played for. Then I time-stretched the sample shorter to make it play back faster (I synced it to the album sample) and then I cut off the sample ending since the original sample plays longer than the album.

So it was a quick 3 step process. Once done, bring it into the Kronos and assign it to a specific key. Bam. Magic.