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SpIdErWeB · Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject:

Reaper isn't a good exemple... (which is close to Open Source).

The best exemple is the iPhone. Apple keeps the OS stable and still provides resources for developers to develop new cool App (We saw Korg did some stuff, IK Multimedia too, and even some "unknown" devs until then). It's a very friendly eco-system, rentable, secure and stable... and the manufacture keep the last word about validation of an app or not.

For now, I take the Kronos for what it is and don't speculate on any hypothetic future update (Korg hasn't mention any "Open Architecture" at all this time...)

But I clearly wish Arturia, NI, IKMultimedia, WIVI, Spectrasonics, Easwest, ProjectSAM, (just to name few)... would join the party. There's developers would clearly know how to make sounds, and it's nothing related with JS programmers.

For Guitar sounds for instance, there's RealGuitar, DirectGuitar, OrangeTree, etc... They all sound pretty good. I wish I could have them in my Kronos.

Phil

Francois · Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:25 am Post subject:

Even if it were to happen, highly doubtful, I still cannot see but a handful of people taking the time to develop an EXi. And I couldn't understand somebody buying a Kronos just for the sake of having developer's X latest creation.

SpIdErWeB · Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:59 am Post subject:

Nothing different from an iPhone... you buy it because it's a great smartphone... then you'd enjoy it even better because you could buy or download any of the 350,000 apps out there...

Everyone would still buy the Kronos for the fact it's a great workstation... then you'd enjoy it even better because you could buy or download some new Sample libraries or synthesis...

Then it's another value for you to stick with your favorite brand in future. I do have over 350 apps for my phone. Almost 50% of them were paid apps... So, whatever RIM, Nokia, Google, Microsoft or so will release... I will stick with Apple, because the app I bought for my iPhone 1, were working fine on my iPhone 3GS and still do work fine on my iPhone 4.

Conclusion, it will just be a way for Korg to get more consumer material, that will help them to develop interest even more important for their platform and then give serious value for the customer to stick with them in the future.

Note that not everyone has already a Receptor (or equivalent), full-filled of plugins and sound libraries. That's why I can see several good reasons for them to do (even if I doubt they will... please, do surprise me Mr. Korg Smile

).

my 2 cents,
Phil

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Zeroesque · Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject:

@P5Music, I saw your "plea" post.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=58366

I see that you want a piano roll editor on the Kronos, otherwise the iPad will take over all music production on the planet. Cool. Now I get it.

Call Korg and tell them you'll implement this clearly missing feature. Tell them about your TDWTF kung fu skills and that you already know everything about how Kronos is built because you "know" c++, KSP and the Reaper SDK. I'm sure they'll give you an interview and I'm sure you'll get the gig. Then you can program this feature for the small fraction of people who really care out of the small fraction of musicians that don't use a computer sequencer. I really do think you'll make life better for, like, six Kronos buyers.

Now, allow me to go update my knowledge on this here sea plus plus and try to convince every tech company that they just aren't "modern" if they don't let everyone see all of their prototypes.

Also, please let me know where to download the amazing suite of Reaper extensions that you've built.
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P5music · Joined: 02 May 2010 Posts: 41

@Zeroesque
ok, now be quiet.

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billbaker · Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject:

Is there something inherently wrong with Apple as a corporation or it's products and development philosophy that makes the idea of Korg adopting their business model (i-phone/ipad + app store) repugnant?

I wrote (as a joke in another posting) that I wanted just that - but wouldn't that be a cool thing? Maybe it's what the M3 was moving toward but taken a step further.

Modularize the input: Keybed - 41,61,73/76,88, weighted, synth, std/mini/rounded waterfall -- pick one. Finger Pad, Ribbon, JS / Wheels / Vector as "drop-in" options to a standard architecture (like the 19" rack space) and interface (as common as USB please) - add it in or leave a cover plate - your choice.

Modular Guts - I-pad front (touch screen), mac processing back, Terabyte solid state hard drive; detachable, portable, stable, intuitive. "Soft" keys for input in your dorm / hotel / man-cave away from keyboard. screen acts as performance interface capable of multiple touch-adjustments - drawbars, kaos pad(s), multi-vector control, percussion, instrument selection, tap tempo/synq, 2-d theramin...

Modular output: Black box (?) d/a stereo (4,6,8?) outs, firewire, SPDIF, whatever, again to a standard size (tbd) and interface back to "guts" unpluggable for portability of central unit.

Apple in charge of "works in" and "sells for", Korg in charge of "just plain works" and "works with..." [and think of the number of posts here in the vein of "can't get my XXX-Mk1 to work with YYY-Soft's sequencer" and you'd see that QA/QC is well worth paying for).

Enough room to add existing sample libraries. Enough power to run multiple engines. Enough peripheral customization to go from basic/budget to full blown.

And if your favorite software ain't on the list... well they'll want to be.

BB
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NuSkoolTone · Approved Merchant Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 1069

Awesome Idea, but it will never happen.

Shoot with a Master's in Computer Science, I'd take a crack at it for sure.

Here's the Rub: Depending on how sheltered the main OS is from the plug-ins, bad code could "Brick" your KRONOS. Which means to break it and essentially turn it into the equivalent of a large brick!

So besides the IP, the quality control, and the sheer stupidity of some people, if this could affect the system and increase services calls or the need for people restoring their Kronos on a frequent basis (And of COURSE, blame KORG on public forums because they don't have the proper programming skills!) It's just a non-starter.
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