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Michael Blue · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:19 am Post subject:

If we don't get some kind of detailed, positive response from Korg before the pre-order period expires with Sweetwater and others, they're going to lose some sales (well, this one anyway) over this.

They've been very quick to respond in other threads about everything under the sun and the kitchen sink. I don't know whether to take their silence on this issue as a sign they're still working on it and hope to have some (hopefully good) news for us, or that there is no good news so they're shying away completely.

Any kind of an answer would be terrific. Heck "we're working on something, look for an answer here in a couple weeks" would be just fine.

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SpIdErWeB · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:23 am Post subject:

Michael, look in the first post, Dan did already replied.

My comment was a wish Wink

Phil

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Michael Blue · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject:

SpIdErWeB · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject:

Gotcha! Same here regarding budget... there's currently lot of new things on the wish list...

I do love Maschine vey much, there's still few missing, but it's coming good Smile

I'm also curious to play with Spark from Arturia, Tempest from DSI and The Beat Thang from BeatKlangz (if it ever happen one day).

Phil

robinkle · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject:

Korg have been quite in this thread. Could it be that the software isn't ready yet? Maby they are watching the forums for ideas?

My Idea... Learn from Access and their total integration system. It would make me very happy!

Michael Blue · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject:

SpIdErWeB · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:46 pm Post subject:

Actually I do think than for the NAMM, all stuff such Manual, documentation, drivers, plugin and stuff weren't still ready.

Drivers did show up lately and we know Dan (and other guys) are working on manual... so I'm sure we'll get more news when the plugin will be ready.

I agree with you guys Korg should learn from Access for the total Integration (including RTAS to get Kronos sounds directly in ProTools projects).

Phil

Gary Chambers · Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 1

Will there be a 64 bit OSX AU plugin available for Kronos DAW integration at about the time it hits the marketplace? I'm using Logic Pro 9 booted into the 64 bit Kernel - enough quality 64 bit AU's available now ...and I'm not going back to using 32bit or using the Logic bridge...

Elvis · Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 3

Hi Dan or Rich quick simple question

I have an oasys and I have a virus snow ti

My oasys can not act as a vst as my virus snow can Sad

I will buy the Kronos if it allows me to use it as a vst in the same way as the virus ti does in example play the sounds from my daw along with my other vsts such as omnisphere, trillion etc...
My daw is sonar 8.5

I want to use Kronos as a ti type vst in concert with my other vsts in real time
Will this be possible?

Yes or no

Elvis · Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 3

Will Kronos work as a vst in my sonar producer 8.5?
Yes or no?
Please respond

MartinHines · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject:

Given the information released about the Kronos so far, I think it is reasonable to assume the Kronos plug-in will work similarly to the Korg M3 editor/plugin, when a person has the M3-FW option.

With the M3-FW, the M3 transmits audio and midi data over a single FW connection. With the Kronos, it will transmit audio and midi data over a single USB 2.0 connection.

If you don't have an M3, I would suggest downloading the M3 Editor manual, which has a number of screenshots.

Given what I undertand about both the M3-plugin and the Virus TI (based on Michael B's commnents), I am assuiming the Kronos will not have quite as tight an integration as the TI.

To my knowledge, Korg never produced a video demoing the M3 editor/plugin, so I would not hold my breath waiting for one about the Kronos.

Michael Blue · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject:

Martin, you've posted this before, but I have a question for you.
Was the M3 editor considered "a VST"?
If not, they're NOT going to be the same.
The Kronos will likely be more integrated than the M3, just remains to see to what extent.

Elvis, I know it's hard, but repeatedly posting in a demanding manner probably isn't going to help the cause. Smile

X-Trade · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject:

The M3 has a 'VST', 'RTAS', and 'AU' plugin editor, which sends MIDI (SYSEX) data to configure the M3. Theoretically, the configuration can be saved with the project just like any other VST instrument when you make tweaks to it.

Many people had problems when using the software editor, however when it does work then it is just like having your M3 settings saved and editable (and thus automatable too) in the instrument rack in your DAW. Also due to the korg structure of programs, combis, and songs, its not always a straightforward as you'd like to think with regards to editing programs. Its just the same as working from the M3's itself really so no miracles there. Again the main advantage would be that you could store the project Sequencer setup or combi setup with the DAW project.

You can only have one instance open but you can send multiple MIDI channels/tracks to it, provided that your host supports this kind of multitimbral plugin.

On the M3 the plugin itself does not take any sound across, unless you have the firewire expansion. USB connection provided MIDI only although USB MIDI is faster than traditional MIDI or Firewire MIDI so is great for working multitimbrally.
This is where KRONOS is different because it streams the master L/R mix over USB. The M3's firewire expansion on the other hand whilst again buggy for some people, I think offered at least six channels of audio (?).

I haven't personally used either. This is just the sum of my knowledge and observation of the technologies and my experience with Korg's hardware in general.
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