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need for larger velocity scales, 0-128 to small
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ozy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
peter_schwartz wrote:
Schoolyard, 3 PM, be there!


waiting till 3 PM ?

In the gym, NOW!, you coward! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ozy wrote:
coward!


Reprobate!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can hear louder than you Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jemkeys25 wrote:
I can hear louder than you Mad


that's probably because I'm shouting! Wink

Ok, now this thread has touched both the azimut of episthemological debate and the nadir of nursery tit-for-tat.

Time for refreshments! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ozy wrote:
Ok, now this thread has touched both the azimut of episthemological debate and the nadir of nursery tit-for-tat.


Um...

Um...

"Vocabulary Whore!"

Oh. I see.

Right then! Indeed, it's...

Quote:
Time for refreshments! Razz


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
peter_schwartz wrote:
"Vocabulary Whore!"


since we are in OT mode, here's a story

one of the most beautiful Italian songs of the 70s (an adaptation of Lee Masters' "Spoon River" by Fabrizio De Andre', with beautiful melodies) talks about the village's fool: he feels overwhelmed by other people's command of language - so he wants to learn a complete dictionary, trying to replace mental clarity with "lotta words".

It's endearing.

I happen to think about it sometimes.

My parents spoke different languages, we lived in a third country, I never learnt any of the three correctly [look at my English! And you should hear my Hebrew...].

And when I was a kid, I was 5, I could somehow read words, but didn't really know Italian... my father gave to me this huge dictionary. And I really read it cover-by-cover.

Nice book. Full of facts and things: airplanes, trees, shoes, all kind of farming tools. But no characters, few dialogues, and no plot worth speaking of Rolling Eyes

Well, I later learned that the stories any of us can tell about how he learnt his language(s) are often weird, funny, endearing or terrifying. Never dull.


PS: and after that I NEVER, EVER read a manual again. Never. I see an alphabetical index, I throw up. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK! so we're all in agreement, they need to upgrade the midi code,
got it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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OK! so we're all in agreement, they need to upgrade the midi code, got it.


in a nutshell yes, we pretty much agree.

Good, approved.

Now, next item on the agenda:

peace in the Middle East.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, so the last thing we need is new midi code.

But what we urgently need is an eternally unfinished "new midi code project", just to get those most invovded in this thread totally absorbed there, and out of all not insane Korg Kronos threads for months or years to come Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jimknopf wrote:
Ok, so the last thing we need is new midi code.


darn...

as soon as you mention Middle East, some troublemaker appears on the scene Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
we will be out of these threads, as soon as kronos arrives.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Once the Kronos arrives you all will have a slew of new threads to get involved in, I love it, like a silent movie! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
not me, once i have a kronos i'll answer all my own questions.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I find what RichF says with respect to the new piano engine @ the new video from Kraft Music interesting. It was posted here:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=59860

This is the youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIJEmxgCFng

The relevant part starts at 5:25, and it mentions two parameters, velocity bias and intensity. The first skews the curve to increase the resolution on a given range (allowing for more detailed pp while sacrificing f, for example), while intensity controls the change in volume. In this case, it is not the same as not having velocity at all if you reduce intensity, because the tone of the piano still changes.

Impressions?

I personally dig the criticism about velocity (esp when it comes to piano, in my case), and I hope that these parameters coupled with different responses from the keybed will make the situation more bearable. But this is something that will require hands-on time to evaluate, of course. I am curious about how convincingly you can tailor the response of the pianos to your hands with this...

As an aside, I found the discussion on synths having to resemble or not the piano touch interesting...

Cheers,
Juan Miguel
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