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SeedyLee Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1377 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I’m impressed by how Korg have taken 3 products - the ModEave, OpSix and WaveState, and converted them into (checks notes) … 14 different products. It’s especially amazing given that the OpSix and WaveState are really based on the Kronos and OASYS, which was based on the WaveStation and Korg’s VPM synthesis.
So we have the OpSix, OpSix MK2, OpSix SE, OpSix Native, Wavestate, WaveState MK2, WaveState SE, WaveState Native, ModWave, ModWave MK2, ModWave Native, OpSix Module, Wavestate Module, ModWave Module.
Did I get that right? _________________ Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A
Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One |
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chelsea4023 Senior Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Posts: 472 Location: West London, U.K.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I've not seen any comments on the Grandstage X piano. I think it looks really cool and very futuristic !!
I thought the previous Grandstage was a superb instrument and was surprised it did not get the recognition it deserved. Here is a very good Youtube demo by Luke Edwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOUi4CcRUxo&t=1106s
Chris
p.s. It's not an issue for me as I have the same keybed on my Nautilus 88, but was a bit surprised that they used the RH3 action on the new Grandstage X. |
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shefu Full Member
Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 132 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:06 am Post subject: |
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I just don't see the point of keys like grandstage. You could just get a Nautilus 88, and have pretty much the same thing but with more features. _________________ facebook.com/youwishmusic |
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bpoodoo Senior Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2019 Posts: 429 Location: Ding Dong, TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Grandstage X has a more accessible front panel interface (it's got faders!) compared to a Nautilus and some arranger-ish accompaniment features. Seems overpriced though. _________________ bpoodoo
Triton Extreme 88 w/MOSS
"We all move on, like centuries and doves." |
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SeedyLee Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1377 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:05 am Post subject: |
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So much hype on the forums.
Ooh, look: tumbleweed! _________________ Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A
Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One |
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Soundsgood Junior Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there are also at least one new metronome..
I actually think that the modules make sense, since people already are cutting their opsixes and wavetstates in half.
I would really like to se a virtual miniloge XD. I can't carry all these synths along so the VST versions are great. _________________ ASM Hydrasynth, Roland Fantom 7, Korg T1, Korg Kross 61, Korg Krome 73, Korg Wavestate, Korg Minilogue XD, Korg Opsix,
Korg Electribe II S, Korg Wavestation A/D, Roland JD-XI, Korg MS-20, Korg Karma, Korg Dsm-110, Korg Elecribe Sampler 2, Nord Wave 2, Nord Stage 3, Nord Electro 6,
Nord Drum 3, Waldorf Blofeld, Roland D-550
iPad, Roland-D05, Elekrtron Digitakt, Elektron Digitone, Novation Peak
A lot of cumputer stuff! |
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Koekepan Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 617
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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From my cynical side:
They figured out that they could sell more widgets to space-constrained people if the widgets are smaller.
From my less cynical side: it dawned on them that what people want are sonic options, but that adding a crummy keyboard isn't making them more desirable to people who already have a nice MIDI controller (whether pads, keys, wind or whatever). |
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Synthmaestro
Joined: 17 Oct 2014 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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SeedyLee wrote: | I’m impressed by how Korg have taken 3 products - the ModEave, OpSix and WaveState, and converted them into (checks notes) … 14 different products. It’s especially amazing given that the OpSix and WaveState are really based on the Kronos and OASYS, which was based on the WaveStation and Korg’s VPM synthesis.
So we have the OpSix, OpSix MK2, OpSix SE, OpSix Native, Wavestate, WaveState MK2, WaveState SE, WaveState Native, ModWave, ModWave MK2, ModWave Native, OpSix Module, Wavestate Module, ModWave Module.
Did I get that right? |
Sounds about right, I think you can get them in VST forms also... _________________ Korg Triton Extreme 88, Korg M3 88, Moog Voyager Select Series Whitewash - Indigo, Roland V-Synth GT, Roland AX-Synth. |
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Soundsgood Junior Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 91 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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SeedyLee wrote: | I’m impressed by how Korg have taken 3 products - the ModEave, OpSix and WaveState, and converted them into (checks notes) … 14 different products. It’s especially amazing given that the OpSix and WaveState are really based on the Kronos and OASYS, which was based on the WaveStation and Korg’s VPM synthesis.
So we have the OpSix, OpSix MK2, OpSix SE, OpSix Native, Wavestate, WaveState MK2, WaveState SE, WaveState Native, ModWave, ModWave MK2, ModWave Native, OpSix Module, Wavestate Module, ModWave Module.
Did I get that right? |
I'm waiting for the Eurorack versions! _________________ ASM Hydrasynth, Roland Fantom 7, Korg T1, Korg Kross 61, Korg Krome 73, Korg Wavestate, Korg Minilogue XD, Korg Opsix,
Korg Electribe II S, Korg Wavestation A/D, Roland JD-XI, Korg MS-20, Korg Karma, Korg Dsm-110, Korg Elecribe Sampler 2, Nord Wave 2, Nord Stage 3, Nord Electro 6,
Nord Drum 3, Waldorf Blofeld, Roland D-550
iPad, Roland-D05, Elekrtron Digitakt, Elektron Digitone, Novation Peak
A lot of cumputer stuff! |
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SeedyLee Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1377 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Followed by a Volca Version! _________________ Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A
Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One |
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KK Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1427
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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BlackForest Full Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2020 Posts: 210 Location: German, Black Forest
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:05 am Post subject: |
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StephenKay wrote: |
I like that! |
@StephenKay, will you recode the Karma software for this PS-3300?
Speaking about the Karma software - are people still buying it?
Ever thought of offering at a substantial discount / freeware it? _________________ Kronos 2-88 & X73, Kurzweil MicroPiano, Spitfire Albion V Tundra, BBCO Core, Nylon Guitar Ilya Efimov, Xtant Audio Uilleann Pipes - in use
Korg DS-8, Roland D-10, M1Rex, Wavestation, Korg SP-280, JV2080, Wavestate, Kronos LS - all RIP |
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BlackForest Full Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2020 Posts: 210 Location: German, Black Forest
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:26 am Post subject: |
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chelsea4023 wrote: | Hi,
I've not seen any comments on the Grandstage X piano. I think it looks really cool and very futuristic !!
I thought the previous Grandstage was a superb instrument and was surprised it did not get the recognition it deserved. Here is a very good Youtube demo by Luke Edwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOUi4CcRUxo&t=1106s
Chris
p.s. It's not an issue for me as I have the same keybed on my Nautilus 88, but was a bit surprised that they used the RH3 action on the new Grandstage X. |
Since the Grandstage is based on the Kronos' sound engines, I wonder if it is built internally on the Kronos as well, meaning a PC with motherboard etc., probably more up to date like the Nautilus's internal hardware?
Because if they have transferred to a Raspery system like the wavestate, we might see an updated Kronos 3 then? _________________ Kronos 2-88 & X73, Kurzweil MicroPiano, Spitfire Albion V Tundra, BBCO Core, Nylon Guitar Ilya Efimov, Xtant Audio Uilleann Pipes - in use
Korg DS-8, Roland D-10, M1Rex, Wavestation, Korg SP-280, JV2080, Wavestate, Kronos LS - all RIP |
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SpOoNmAn
Joined: 16 Nov 2023 Posts: 31 Location: N.E. Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Pretty sure the Kronos has been put to rest for good. It's cool to see all the products they are dropping, but a part of me wonders why they aren't putting more energy into solid updates to the Pa5x, and working on a high end flagship kronos replacement. I love my Nautilus, but I'd still be very keen on a true flagship workstation. _________________ Near Future: Korg PA5x
Current: Korg Nautilus, Roland Fantom 06, Akai Mpc Key 61
Past: All KORG: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x |
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