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mabcomp · Senior Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 385 Location: GB

Has the PA5X dropped the TC Helicon Harmonies?
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davekalbach · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:14 am Post subject:

I couldn't find the actual reference - but I think this was talked about here on the forum.

KORG has ended its relationship with TC Helicon, likely due to the latter now being owned by Behringer.

The 5x does have a very good harmonizer, built by Shift Audio, which aparantlty was started by two guys from TC Helicon. See related post:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=127346
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mabcomp · Senior Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 385 Location: GB

Thanks for your reply, its rather odd they dont mention the harmonies in the advertising
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D575 · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:42 am Post subject:

Worth a mention... Although Vocal Harmonizer are not really my thing but i have dabbled with PA4X with a young duo (guitarist and vocalist who are now twisting my arm post covid to join them, time permitting and when I am fully confident with PA5X) where I help with there technical issues (PA and Sound, etc) and also i was never really satisfied with the results previously using the PA4X TC harmonizer...

But what really surprised me after attending KORG UK PA5X official launch evening hosted by Keysounds and where normaly I have been a little dismissive of these Harmonizers in the past...

But this time after listening to Pete Shaws rendition of a Ed Sheeran song demonstrating the NEW Vocal Harmonizer in PA5X, this then very quickly grabbed my attention and of course Pete has a lovely voice but importantly the results using the Vocal Harmonizers did not diminish in anyway and only enhanced Petes vocals (TC Electronics should be worried as two of there ex-employees have i believe done a stellar job with the PA5X which would indicate they are on to a winning formula)

The following day as the PA5X launch weekend continued and during my many discussions with the Korg team, I asked did they video the previous days event and specifically here Petes Shaws Ed Sheeran rendition using the New Harmonizers, as I was keen to show my friends vocalist in their duo, which unfortunately they hadn't but I did express i thought it would useful to repeat what i had experienced from Pete's Ed Sheeran rendition to video and perhaps followed by a explanation how he achieved this...

Pete did explain to me the following day how he did this but unfortunately I have forgotten already as there was so much to take in and i am sure others also would get much from a video like this.

SO..... after being pleasantly surprised and impressed with the New Harmonizer in Pete's performance I will now revisit the possibility of using the Vocal Harmonizer in PA5X with my friend's Duo.
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musiccankill · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:02 am Post subject:

I can confirm that the harmonizer and doubler the pa5x has are WAY WAAAAAY better than TC ones on the previous models..
I had never managed to make the older ones produce a realistic (or even close to realistic) sound.They always sounded robotic to me..
Not any more!
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mabcomp · Senior Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 385 Location: GB

When you refer to the Harmonizer on the PA5X has it got an array of different harmonies to choose from or just a couple of basic. I shouldn't really be having to ask these questions, this should all be listed in the spec and advertising
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musiccankill · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:38 am Post subject:

It has a lot of settings to tune the sound as you wish!
It was easier to just shoot a short video of all the options so here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5AI58h2Ec
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mabcomp · Senior Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 385 Location: GB

Grateful for your help, I was expecting to hear something but just a visual is ok as it cant be judged on You tube anyway
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mabcomp · Senior Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 385 Location: GB

I assume the PaAs Speaker I already have on the PA4X will still fit
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D575 · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Harmonizer

mabcomp · Senior Member Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 385 Location: GB

Heard a long sounds demo which is good, will we still have the styles used on the PA4X available also, for instance I like the Fifty Shades

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=PA5X&&view=detail&mid=F4B284DF82740B604029F4B284DF82740B604029&&FORM=VDRVSR
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D575 · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: PA5X Sounds

musiccankill · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Harmonizer

tkarlmann

All the 5x appears to have for Pitch Correction is ON or OFF.
How do I adjust for Hard-Tune (Cher) vs. Soft Tune?
Where is the Checkbox for "Muting the Mic Input"?
The 4x appears to have MANY more options for voice than the 5x.

I cannot fathom what one other replier here means -- due to the fact that the sessions he listened to was not recorded.

Korg will not get my mega-$$$$$$ for a 5x for such shoddy descriptions, videos, or manuals!

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