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Cutter · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: building combi from programs

Is there a quick way to stack programs to make a combi....and change a program or two in the combi while playing?
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StudioMan · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject:

Yes, but no (if that makes sense).

Your best to make the combi, assign your knobs & SW's, then adjust like that.

TO try to make combi's on the fly is tough, even at practice, live?, I don't know why you would want to do it..

How I develope a, I find the first program I want, then if it needs adjusted, I mess with it, assign it to a new location (for now), then open a new combi, hit the dropdown in the upper right corner, select "Copy from program", then go back to program mode, find my next program, switch back to the combi, set it on another track, and just keep building from there.
Almost ALL my combis involve setting up different sounds to different parts of the key boards, so I can just move to a different part of a key board for the different sound (I'm switching between bass & keys for the most part, I'm not doing to much two hand playing).

I hope this helps!

Mike

Cutter · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks I have noticed you appear to be one of the more knowledgeable members that answers a lot of peoples questions here.
Helps yes and no-
One of the selling features of the M50 is the ability to stack a large number of programs. To that means building a combi. Not so much the ones that change from one to another as keyboard splits.

For example a piano string and pad (like a lot of combis are) I would think that if you had those three and then you can scroll through a fourth sound a lot like you can do to change drum patterns might make part of it on the fly.
Though I still have not found a fast way to build the combi or stacked sound quickly.

My M 50 is new and I have done the fast go through on the manual and starting the slow read now.
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StudioMan · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject:

First find a program you want, then open a new combi, hit the dropdown in the upper right corner, select "Copy from program", then go back to program mode, find your next program, switch back to the combi, set it on another track, and just keep building from there. You don't have to split the keyboard if not needed.
Or, use the touch screen in combi on the track. But you'll have to change the channel your playing..
Or, put it all on the same track/channel, hear it all at the same time.
It all basically works the same. It's the same outcome, it's just how you prefer to work.

Personally, I like to first hear the program (sound) by itself, before mixing it into the combi.

I hope this helps!

Mike

Cutter · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject:

Or, put it all on the same track/channel, hear it all at the same time.

this one would work
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject:

I once thought about creating an offline computer program to combine multiple programs into one combi, taking care of 'merging' the insert and master effects. However in practice this is quite hard to do because the program needs to know what programs are more important (for keeping its effect parameters) and the merging of effects is very subjective.

What I normally do is to take a combi that is a bit similar and start from there. If there is none, using a program and copy it (mostly the most important program) and copy its effects. After that adding programs (by going to program mode, find it and copy it to the program) and setting effect settings as far as possible. Also try to only use the most important effects if you want to combine >1 program.
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Cutter · Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject:

I'm use to my N364 where I can start with a combi for the background and lay a piano prgram over it as the primary and the maybe a base and then change the sounds as I play...looking to see how the 50 would do that.
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