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jroujinsky
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject: How to remove GM programs from the program list? |
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By default, progam list contains a long list of General MIDI programs that makes it harder to navigate. In case I do not use GM it is really useless.
How can I get them out of the lists? _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Studiologic 88.
(Trinity, Karma, Triton Studio, M3 in the past).
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BillW Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 933 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: How to remove GM programs from the program list? |
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jroujinsky wrote: | By default, progam list contains a long list of General MIDI programs that makes it harder to navigate. In case I do not use GM it is really useless.
How can I get them out of the lists? |
I think Korg users have been asking this for years and it still cannot be done. _________________ Korg Kronos 61 (2); Kurzweil PC4; Casio Privia PX-350m; Macbook Pro |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 790 Location: NH USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Don't have a Kronos yet, but can't you take them off the favorites list and just look at favorites? _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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GM canot be removed and there is a Logic behind it, i dont think it will happen. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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Gargamel314 Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 1147 Location: Carneys Point, NJ
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Believe he's addressing the "GM bank and it's many variations is an eyesore" concern. My Korg M3 is arranged so that all the GM programs show up at the END of the category view. So if you browse all Keyboards by category, you'll get all the keyboard programs in banks I-A through I-F, then U-A throug U-G, then all the ones in I-G (0-9) at the end of all of that. This was an improvement over the Triton series, but it seems to have been left out in the Kronos. Perhaps this was part of the M3's 2.0 patch...that may be included in a future Kronos update?
... cause we haven't heard anything about the M3's 2.0 features appearing in the Kronos yet, can't hurt to hope for the best on this, right? _________________ Korg Kronos-61, 01/Wfd, SONAR Pro
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Gargamel314 wrote: | Believe he's addressing the "GM bank and it's many variations is an eyesore" concern. My Korg M3 is arranged so that all the GM programs show up at the END of the category view. This was I thought this was an improvement over the Triton series, but it seems to have been left out in the Kronos. Perhaps this was part of the M3's 2.0 patch...that may be included in a future Kronos update?
... cause we haven't heard anything about the M3's 2.0 features appearing in the Kronos yet, can't hurt to hope for the best on this, right? |
I would also appreciate this feature, because I consider the no GM programs far mor better than the GM ones. Also (at least on my Triton Extreme, dont'know about Kronos), equally named g(1)-g(9) programs are all listed. _________________
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cello Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 2152 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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As mentioned above, favourites might be your way of removing the GM sounds from your view.
I have done this (and with other sounds).
It takes a while but you basically go through each program and mark it as a favourite, then save each marked program.
Then when you're browsing/auditioning you select the favourites box at the bottom of the category or bank screen and you no longer see the sounds you don't want. If you want to see all the sounds, then uncheck it again. _________________ Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5, |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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You can't remove them from the lists. (But it's been discussed amongst the developers how this would be a very desirable thing - we don't like looking at them either. So maybe in a future update.) _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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StephenKay wrote: | You can't remove them from the lists. (But it's been discussed amongst the developers how this would be a very desirable thing - we don't like looking at them either. So maybe in a future update.) |
It wouldn't be so difficult to make:
- Add one option in the Global menu to show GM programs or not
- in the programs list check if th option is set or not.
But of course anything costs time (and especially test time). But it would be a nice addition. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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Gargamel314 Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 1147 Location: Carneys Point, NJ
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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cello wrote: | As mentioned above, favourites might be your way of removing the GM sounds from your view.
I have done this (and with other sounds).
It takes a while but you basically go through each program and mark it as a favourite, then save each marked program.
Then when you're browsing/auditioning you select the favourites box at the bottom of the category or bank screen and you no longer see the sounds you don't want. If you want to see all the sounds, then uncheck it again. |
Sweet ... i did not know about this feature. Thanks for explaining it. Does this get saved with a PCG file? so when you are dealing with multiple PCG's... you don't have to do this every time you load in a new one? _________________ Korg Kronos-61, 01/Wfd, SONAR Pro |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Favorite Sounds on the Kronosd? _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Gargamel314 wrote: | Sweet ... i did not know about this feature. Thanks for explaining it. Does this get saved with a PCG file? so when you are dealing with multiple PCG's... you don't have to do this every time you load in a new one? |
The Favorites checkbox is saved with the program. So once you write the program, you can store it in however many different PCG files you want, and it will be there. But it's the same as any other parameter in a program. It's like editing the filter cutoff. If you edit it in one file, it's not going to be edited in some other file. So let's say you stored your Kronos PCG on day 1 (all the programs); then later you go through and mark some of them as favorites. If you were to reload the previous data, or the factory preload, your favorites would be gone. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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afr Senior Member
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 315
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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BasariStudios wrote: | there is a Logic behind it |
The dark side of the logic
BasariStudios wrote: | i dont think it will happen. |
I'm confident that it will |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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afr wrote: | I'm confident that it will |
Well...i hope... _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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Brandon Daniel QA Specialist, Korg R&D
Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 103 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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As Stephen said, I know I filed a feature request for this some time ago.
Another possible solution would be to not show all of the variations of all the GM programs, only one per variation, as this is the primary cause of clogging up the category browse list, right? _________________ ________________________________
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