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rapyerx · Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Posts: 6

Sorry for my bad english, but I just watched this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2tLs2_Buf4

For peru only, the bundle comes with a 4GB SDHC card with custom latin samples to load and confirm tha the keyb has 30mb for samples. I wonder the reaction of korg after this...

Daniel_C · Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 22

This is great , the sequences sound very authentic, I hope the sampler function on entry level boards comes back, let´s hope this sounds become available for everyone. Great find, thanks, for sharing, saludos!

musicman2011 · Junior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 82

I dont think thats a sampler function . I dont see the sample loading menus pop up like the removed video had. If you note the load program button is selected and the screen shows banks of programs loading.

I think they are just using factory waves that were reprogrammed

Note I dont speak Spanish soI may be full of it..

Chriskk · Senior Member Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 349

It's not user sampling. There is no way Korg offers a user sampling function only for a particular country.

Frostmaster · Joined: 14 Aug 2012 Posts: 8

Where are you getting the information that the Krome has 30mb for samples? I read that same thing somewhere else but no one can prove that it has that or any spare memory for samples.

I saw the removed video from that guy loading in something but does he specifically say it has the extra memory?

Maybe he was just loading in custom user sounds or can you disprove that?

rapyerx · Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Posts: 6

billbaker · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject:

(isn't dead?)

It is deceased.
It has gone to meet it's maker.
It is pining for the fjords.

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Seriously. Compress the bundled file sample, if such exists, and post it with instructions on how to install it.

My basic Spanish and observational skills say that this is a .pcg file being loaded - and since no .ksg or sample files is shown at all in the load procedure (which is shown step by step) I think that this is a case of savvy marketing to Latino users whose genre based needs are very specific and different than pop/rock north of the border.

Without opening a cultural, racial or language inspired debate, the inclusion of a full bank of exclusively "Latin" sounds in the US might have been seen as a negative, that Krome was created to serve a niche market. But the marketing of a Latin .pcg in Latin America points at Korg Peru's targeting their strongest/broadest buying demographic regionally.

Assuring a potential buyer that, yes, they can eventually program all the sounds they want - "it'll be great, I promise" - is not the same as popping in a non-Gringo factory bank that has all the acordeon, trompeta and batteria voices they want... and that you-are-important-to-us "exclusivo para Peru" reinforces that customer relationship and perception of value.

Personally, I can't grasp the reason for the overkill on the card size for a single .pcg - maybe it's touted as a "free" load and storage device with purchase - my Spanish is, as I said, pretty basic.

If Korg (corp./global) is smart (and seeing this, there's no reason to think they aren't) I'd think we'd also see regional marketing with a Middle Eastern or Indian bank that had a more authentic/ethnic flavor than the (presumably) homogenous US/Euro/Japanese factory banks. In which case...

I'd like to buy an argument (in favor of making these .pcg's non-exclusive).

No you wouldn't.

Yes, I would.

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billbaker · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject:

BTW: Import Music Peru - the Korg distributor for Peru posted the referenced video to Youtube. To me it has all the earmarks of an official Korg video made for IMP by Korg Corp.

At their website tho', Krome is conspicuously absent; it may not yet be available for purchase there.

IMP's download section (where I expected the "exclusive" .pcg might be found) is "under construction". So no joy there.

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rapyerx · Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Posts: 6

billbaker · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject:

OK, I can see that. I'd be more convinced if I actually saw the screen details as the load-up was happening - as we do with the .pcg load procedure.

Mysteriouser.

Could this be an unplanned for hack? A user stumble into an area planned for a future update or feature add-on?

If it's a hack, then I could understand stepping on that independent Youtube video that encourages users to violate warrantee by following an undocumented procedure. Prank'd much? Who know's if it's true... and would you care to risk your keyboard to find out?

If it's planned add-on (and IMP's more Korg-ish professional video might indicate it is) then testing the water makes sense.

Now i have to wonder what's the structure for samples, user interface if any and what might be in development already -- given the obvious and immediate interest. The IMP site's been up for just 2 days as of this writing and the "sample" video for only one.

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satya_music · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Tke Krome sampler

musicman2011 · Junior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 82

Well in the video the demonstrator DO load custom samples by turning on the machine wt the bundled SD card inserted, while pressing 'PAGE' and num '0' buttons, to load the multi-samples just like in the korgman's video that was pulled of youtube two months [/quote]

If that indeed is the case then Korg Peru has access to the inhouse Korg program to generate the Korg samplle, and created the samples much like Korgman did.

More importantly, i saw a fuzzy screen with the OS version number on that you tube video but couldnt make it out, can some one with a better resolution capture that frame and make out the version number of the Krome, to me it appeared to still be 1.0..

billbaker · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject:

[quote] ...Korg Peru has access to the inhouse Korg program to generate the Korg sample... [quote]

Not established. I'd like to think that Korg's responsible for this development rather than IMP.

But while the programs that use the sample are good, particularly the reed flute which is excellent; the others sounded like they might have been sampled from a Roland Expansion board, particularly the Mariachi style brass and accordion which were (IMO) a bit less impressive. So this may be a home grown effort.

Was there a Korg logo on the card? Not that I could see - looked like a Sandisk with the logo taped over. Also, the actual content of the card was not really discussed beyond the minimum (hold samples? (canzones popular) popular songs/sequences, and the .PCG programs that reference the samples), at least that my elementary pick-up Spanish can detect.

Anyone bi-lingual care to post a transcript of the relevant section and claims of sampling?

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Yatrix · Senior Member Joined: 11 Nov 2010 Posts: 281

musicman2011 · Junior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 82

That was my point, Bill, that theres to many unknowns.

In one aspect, it is interesting the South American Dealers are dabbling with the sampling, did they go rouge perhaps?

AFA the video, unless it was editied, I didnt see the load samples menu pop up, and I belive from the korgman video, that process isnt automated yet.

At this point, its all conjecture, but I would even be happy with 30 mb of sampling.

PS I just saw Yatrix reply, which could be valid