The OASYS Refill Project.

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Sharp, very good stuff ! :-)

I would like to participate, if you still need more people. So, please send me your password if this is the case !

Thanx in advance

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Even though I don't own an oasys, I would like the password as well. For when I do buy one, I would like to have these available for me to practice my programming chops.

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Hi Sharp,
I would also like to join the OASYS refill project. There's so many blank Combi's and program banks :-) !!! I would like to get the password for the zip file and give it a shot at making some programs first.

I recall that mozartella has asked if we have can mix and match the original factory OASYS programs with the Refill project programs, when creating Combis. Is that okay or do you have some general guidelines, apart from the fact that we should never change the order of the samples and render it incompatible with everyone else's efforts?

Also regarding OASYS Program creation, is it okay to mix and match the Refill project samples with the OASYS ROM and EXs1 samples?

I guess you would probably say "Yes, it's okay", but I just want to double check before I start, instead of assuming anything.

Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon!

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pranaearth wrote:Even though I don't own an oasys, I would like the password as well. For when I do buy one, I would like to have these available for me to practice my programming chops.

Prana
I’m very sorry but for the moment this data is only being made available to OASYS users who are talking part in the project.

I cannot make any allowances at this point because of the number of people who want to just take the sample data and load them into other workstations.

So what you might think since I’m giving the sample data away for free.

Well the reason is that this project is supposed to bring OASYS users together as a community, and to see they learn and explore their OASYS together. It’s also about creating a buzz online here, and get people talking about other issues than… Why should I buy an OASYS, or is it really worth the money.

Those who already know the answer to those questions are OASYS users, and they are bored of them being asked all the time. It was also affecting the quality of the forum and reducing people’s interest in taking part.

So this project is supposed help in the process of getting people back on topic and doing what we have all being taking part in over the years. Community based support and sound design.

There’s a long history of big projects in the download section as proof this system works.

Allowing other non-OASYS users access to the samples at this point will take the attention away from what we are trying to accomplish here. When this project comes to an end everyone will be able to get access to all the data as the OASYS sample format is the same as the Triton Series.

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Hi elvisjohndowson.
I would like to get the password for the zip file and give it a shot at making some programs first.
Welcome onboard. I’ll PM the password to you in a minute.
I recall that mozartella has asked if we have can mix and match the original factory OASYS programs with the Refill project programs, when creating Combis. Is that okay or do you have some general guidelines, apart from the fact that we should never change the order of the samples and render it incompatible with everyone else's efforts?
The only rule is, don’t mess with the sample data supplied as doing so will create an incompatibility with what others are working on. Everyone must be working from an identical copy of the sample data.

After that, the sky is the limit. Yes you can mix factory PCM – ROM or anything you like into the mix to create something new. That also covers mixing factory PROG sounds in different combination to create new combi sounds, or anything you like.

Basically you can do anything you like that ends in you creating something new, so long as you don’t edit the actual sample data supplied.
Also regarding OASYS Program creation, is it okay to mix and match the Refill project samples with the OASYS ROM and EXs1 samples?
Yes you can also use an EXs so long as its one that everyone has.

Kind Regards.
Sharp.
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Post by elvisjohndowson »

Hi Sharp,
Thanks for the reply. This sounds great!! I'm quite excited about this and will audition the raw samples today evening. I was just curious though, at what resolution/bit depth and frequency did you sample the original sounds. Did you sample it at a higher bit depth and frequency and then reduce it to 16-bit 48kHz for the OASYS or somthing like that?

I guess it won't affect the final outcome, but I was just curious.

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Post by elvisjohndowson »

Hi Sharp,
I just have another question... what is the current status of the project? For example:
a. Total number of new OASYS Refill Project (ORP) programs created?
b. Total number of new ORP combis created?

It would be nice if the people working on the voicing could document their motivation/workflow/conceptual idea behind creating the program or combi, to some level. In my case, it would be random/intuition/inspiration driven, but some bit of documentation would help, especially since we are in the initial stages of the project (just guessing!!).

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Sharp wrote:
pranaearth wrote:Even though I don't own an oasys, I would like the password as well. For when I do buy one, I would like to have these available for me to practice my programming chops.

Prana
I’m very sorry but for the moment this data is only being made available to OASYS users who are talking part in the project.

I cannot make any allowances at this point because of the number of people who want to just take the sample data and load them into other workstations.

So what you might think since I’m giving the sample data away for free.

Well the reason is that this project is supposed to bring OASYS users together as a community, and to see they learn and explore their OASYS together. It’s also about creating a buzz online here, and get people talking about other issues than… Why should I buy an OASYS, or is it really worth the money.

Those who already know the answer to those questions are OASYS users, and they are bored of them being asked all the time. It was also affecting the quality of the forum and reducing people’s interest in taking part.

So this project is supposed help in the process of getting people back on topic and doing what we have all being taking part in over the years. Community based support and sound design.

There’s a long history of big projects in the download section as proof this system works.

Allowing other non-OASYS users access to the samples at this point will take the attention away from what we are trying to accomplish here. When this project comes to an end everyone will be able to get access to all the data as the OASYS sample format is the same as the Triton Series.

Kind Regards.
Sharp.


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Count2Four123 wrote:Sharp, very good stuff ! :-)

I would like to participate, if you still need more people. So, please send me your password if this is the case !

Thanx in advance

T.
i understand that you don't want to send me your password and that's alright with me. wish you luck anyway with your little project.

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Count2Four123 wrote:
Count2Four123 wrote:Sharp, very good stuff ! :-)

I would like to participate, if you still need more people. So, please send me your password if this is the case !

Thanx in advance

T.
i understand that you don't want to send me your password and that's alright with me. wish you luck anyway with your little project.

T.
Hello.

It’s not that I don’t want to send you the password, I actually hadn’t seen your post in the first place.

If you do own an OASYS, then you’re welcome to the password. All you need to do is say the world.

Kind Regards.
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mozartella wrote:
Sharp wrote:
pranaearth wrote:Even though I don't own an oasys, I would like the password as well. For when I do buy one, I would like to have these available for me to practice my programming chops.

Prana
I’m very sorry but for the moment this data is only being made available to OASYS users who are talking part in the project.

I cannot make any allowances at this point because of the number of people who want to just take the sample data and load them into other workstations.

So what you might think since I’m giving the sample data away for free.

Well the reason is that this project is supposed to bring OASYS users together as a community, and to see they learn and explore their OASYS together. It’s also about creating a buzz online here, and get people talking about other issues than… Why should I buy an OASYS, or is it really worth the money.

Those who already know the answer to those questions are OASYS users, and they are bored of them being asked all the time. It was also affecting the quality of the forum and reducing people’s interest in taking part.

So this project is supposed help in the process of getting people back on topic and doing what we have all being taking part in over the years. Community based support and sound design.

There’s a long history of big projects in the download section as proof this system works.

Allowing other non-OASYS users access to the samples at this point will take the attention away from what we are trying to accomplish here. When this project comes to an end everyone will be able to get access to all the data as the OASYS sample format is the same as the Triton Series.

Kind Regards.
Sharp.


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What is that supposed to mean, mozartella? :evil:
Thats alright, I can wait till I buy an Oasys.
Good Luck in your little project, Sharp.
I'll catch the rewards on the other end.

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Post by elvisjohndowson »

Hi Sharp,
I just went through the samples and I must say, I really liked them. I noted down a few comments yesterday and will reply to them in separate posts.

Sharp, I feel that we need to start a separate section for the Refill project. This is because we may need developers to separately comment on programs and combis. We would also need to have a configuration management system of sorts in place to version, vote on which programs and combis get selected into the master pcg and then make the latest pcgs available for download and review by the rest of the developer.

Yesterday, I made my first program with your sample and tried my first attempt at Karmafication and creating a combi. I must say, the whole process is really intuitive. Having Karma really helps, I just love it!! :)

Do let me know your thoughts on this.

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Quick check of the contents of the OASYS Refill Multisamples

Post by elvisjohndowson »

Hi Sharp,
I just want to make a quick check to see if I've got all the multisamples loaded and in the correct order, before I proceed.

All in all, is it correct that there are 110 Multisamples (000 to 109) in total?

Is the occurrence of the following multisamples correct, in terms of order and location:
000: Wide Analogue - L
025: Synth_Bass_3
040: newbass4
070: Mini
090: Lead of Love -L
109: 64mb Piano MF

Thanks !!

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Bugs with some of the OASYS Refill Multisamples

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Hi Sharp,
I just observed some bugs with some of the OASYS Refill Multisamples and just wanted to run this by you to confirm:

007 : Digital Guitar 2 DF001: C5 note, dull click towards the end of the sample. More prominent beat effect if you press a two or more notes at the same time C5 & E5.

081 : Famous Flute : Metallic tick noise towards the end of the sample, audio beats due to looping?

009 : XL Synth Bass 1 : Audible beat noise when playing C2 note.

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Questions about some of the multisamples

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Hi Sharp,
I have a few questions about some of the multisamples:

032 : Kit_10 : Is this from another keyboard/instrument.

079 : X-Files .. any similarities to the soundtrack from the TV series? Umm, I don't have the soundtrack handy, so would be helpful if you could tell me which component of the X-files soundtrack.

106 to 109 : 64mb Piano FF MF : Is this the Gunther's original piano sample for the K2000, reformatted for the OASYS. 'Cos I did this already once for the Triton and that was also a 64MB Piano sampled at two velocities. So many co-incidences, which is why I thought I'd ask the question. By the way, what is the merit behind putting the 64MB piano sample into the OASYS Refill project, when we have the 500MB EXs2 piano samples? Can't we save on sample space with this one? I liked the Trinity Piano sample, 'cos it sounded different, but the 64MB Piano sample, I'm not quite sure how many people would make programs out of this one. I did for the Triton a long time back, but that was because the original piano sound was not very good, so I used Gunther's Piano sample, originally created for the K2000 and converted it to the KSC format for use with the Triton.

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