MOD-7 organ - WOW!

tcornishmn · Post by **tcornishmn** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:27 pm

I was one of the holdouts until 1.31 since I can't spare the downtime if I were to have crashes since I play live.

I had a scare while updating - I first did the update from the global menu. It failed with an error "Failed to update the kernel". The update ran successfully when I booted from the upgrade CD, so all is well I guess.

Anyway, this was my first time to hear MOD-7. I liked the DX piano being right up front - no one could miss that. When I got to 22, the full organ, I was blown away. WOW! I play the CX3 probably half my time on the OASYS, and while I don't think the MOD-7 tonewheel organ implementation is going to replace the CX3 mode for me, I was really impressed by how great it sounded.

Any chance someday we could have a "reverse direction" toggle on controllers so that the drawbars wouldn't be upside down?

Very cool. I'll definitely have to budget for MOD-7 soon.

Teh Mick · Post by **Teh Mick** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:36 pm

By reading the topic, I though you mean that MOD-7 Organ sounded better than the CX3 Organ

I can't compare myself because I don't own an OASYS

tcornishmn · Post by **tcornishmn** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:13 pm

No, not better - the CX3 is the real deal.

It's still very cool that a multi-purpose synth type can make such a convincing clone of a difficult to reproduce sound. I'm sure it was greatly helped in that it uses the same leslie simulator that the CX3 does.

Swampfox · Post by **Swampfox** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:51 am

Believe me...I think the CX3 is literally incredible!...Its still not the real thing though... the pianos are close too, but again, they're not a finely tuned yamaha C7...

-SFX-

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:02 pm

Honestly I really don't get folks who swear by how great the organ sounds. To me, it's just electric organs from the 60's and 70's. What's the thrill of recreating so called authentic organs based on outdated electronic technology since it's inception? I mean it's like worshiping the sounds of the high definition 1-bit Dolby audio DVDs when in fact the DVD captured 60 year old LPs played on a 40 year old turntable. Someone might as well claim that having powering up the Oasys in a recording studio where Beatles recorded induced warm positive ions but faithful electrical jouls vitalizing the audio spectrum of the organ sounds by 17%.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:09 pm

Still - overall I find Mod7 one of the most exciting moduls within the Oasys. Not so much because of its organ-sounds, though.

RobertPlatinum · Post by **RobertPlatinum** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:34 am

Synergy wrote:Honestly I really don't get folks who swear by how great the organ sounds. To me, it's just electric organs from the 60's and 70's. What's the thrill of recreating so called authentic organs based on outdated electronic technology since it's inception? I mean it's like worshiping the sounds of the high definition 1-bit Dolby audio DVDs when in fact the DVD captured 60 year old LPs played on a 40 year old turntable. Someone might as well claim that having powering up the Oasys in a recording studio where Beatles recorded induced warm positive ions but faithful electrical jouls vitalizing the audio spectrum of the organ sounds by 17%.

The vintage equipment had a "sound" to it that was lost through advancements. imo. The same way I listen to the difference between cassettes tapes that I used to record and cd's. The tapes sound a lot smoother and warmer than the cd's I record now.

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:27 am

Synergy wrote:Honestly I really don't get folks who swear by how great the organ sounds. To me, it's just electric organs from the 60's and 70's. What's the thrill of recreating so called authentic organs based on outdated electronic technology since it's inception? I mean it's like worshiping the sounds of the high definition 1-bit Dolby audio DVDs when in fact the DVD captured 60 year old LPs played on a 40 year old turntable. Someone might as well claim that having powering up the Oasys in a recording studio where Beatles recorded induced warm positive ions but faithful electrical jouls vitalizing the audio spectrum of the organ sounds by 17%.

Are you saying you don't understand why today people like the sound of 50's - 60 's organs? Surely you're not suggesting that something not of particual interest to you is actually universally invalid and should not be liked by others?? Is this your point or am I misinterpreting you here?

Kevin.

dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:08 am

Yeah, we should throw out violins, guitars, flutes, horns, and drums too....they're all just so old.....

Synergy wrote:Honestly I really don't get folks who swear by how great the organ sounds. To me, it's just electric organs from the 60's and 70's. What's the thrill of recreating so called authentic organs based on outdated electronic technology since it's inception? I mean it's like worshiping the sounds of the high definition 1-bit Dolby audio DVDs when in fact the DVD captured 60 year old LPs played on a 40 year old turntable. Someone might as well claim that having powering up the Oasys in a recording studio where Beatles recorded induced warm positive ions but faithful electrical jouls vitalizing the audio spectrum of the organ sounds by 17%.

nitecrawler · Post by **nitecrawler** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:13 pm

Jeez! It thought one of the points of a great synthesizer was its ability to emulate different instruments so you didn't have to schlep around ten different vintage keyboards and keep them refurbished so you can go out and play a friggin club. Goes to show what I know.

nitecrawler

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:32 pm

Kevin Nolan wrote: Are you saying you don't understand why today people like the sound of 50's - 60 's organs? Surely you're not suggesting that something not of particual interest to you is actually universally invalid and should not be liked by others?? Is this your point or am I misinterpreting you here?
Kevin.

Are you telling me that I don't understand why today people like the sounds of 50's - 60's organs as well as fiddles, banjos, bag pipes, elec. distorted guitars, hip hop lyrics and bible thumping sounds?
Surely you're not suggesting that something not of particular interest to me is actually universally valid and should be liked by me? Is this your point or am I misinterpreting you here?

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:34 pm

dhjdhj wrote:Yeah, we should throw out violins, guitars, flutes, horns, and drums too....they're all just so old.....

Fortunately we have a field of study called the ‘acoustic science’ to differentiate from the “electrical & electronics engineering” in order to rescue the wise and sad ones.

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:36 pm

nitecrawler wrote:Jeez! It thought one of the points of a great synthesizer was its ability to emulate different instruments so you didn't have to schlep around ten different vintage keyboards and keep them refurbished so you can go out and play a friggin club. Goes to show what I know.

nitecrawler

Wouldn’t it make sense to sell all of the refurbished vintage organs (if you own and heard any in person) in order to finance the sampling of your mucho Friggin club sounds painstakingly on a LP recorder (circa, 1950) just in case they become the sought after vintage near future. Ye’ know what I’m sayin eh.

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:38 pm

RobertPlatinum wrote: The vintage equipment had a "sound" to it that was lost through advancements. imo. The same way I listen to the difference between cassettes tapes that I used to record and cd's. The tapes sound a lot smoother and warmer than the cd's I record now.

There is a small store in my town that exclusively sells old dusty dark brown vintage audio equipments dates back to 40's. I was curious to know what the deal really was and asked the clerk to demo few of the systems with the funky looking speakers. Some of the speakers were actually spinning horns. Few of the patrons praised how warm the sounds were but it was mostly whirling sounds from decades old electrical motor and the air turbulence. It certainly made me feel warm due to the heat from the vacuum tubes. However I understand where these folks are coming from. I feel more soothing listening to my 30 year old mono alarm clock radio than any of the mega expensive high tech stereo systems I’ve heard to date. I’d say it has more to do with nostalgic yearning than the surgical need of that particular organ sound.

tcornishmn · Post by **tcornishmn** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:40 pm

The Hammond sound is part of a lot of music over the last almost 80 years. The Oasys does it really well - it has a ton of dynamics and playability, which is what it takes to create a memorable instrument.

The 80s were filled with avant garde new synth sounds that people got a little tired of, or at least tired of hearing exclusively. Since then a lot of music has gone back and embraced many of the great earlier instuments.

If you don't get it, that's fine. There's a lot that I don't get. I do get the fact that the Oasys has some really compelling vintage stuff.