OASYS user pissed off :-((

[Daz]

I do feel that by comparison with the M3 and M50, the Oasys has been left out in the cold.

Personally, I feel that is not a fair assessment.

The M3 has gained some enhancements in it's lifetime, but the Oasys has gained some very significant new functionality that goes way beyond just enhancing what is already there. Synth engine wise at least

To me the Oasys is a synthesizer first and sequencer second, so my view is skewed by that, you folks may see things differently.

Anyway, I am sure a fabulous OS 2.0 is on it's way (I don't know anything official), and I think the worry we should all have is not the past or present, but the long term future. Will that the OS 2.0 be the last hurrah ?

Daz.

[Kevin Nolan]

I have deliberately kept out of these discussions, but there's one thing I wish to say.
The business game can be played many ways, and there is always more than one correct answer. What I think is a viable strategy, and what I would simultaneously really like to see from a customers pespective, is a strong OASYS OS 2.0 in the current hardware, new ad campaign and a new round of reviews from the major magazines and e-zines.

I totally agree - there's more than one way to skin a wombat.

Kevin.
(you know I'm only kidding and respect you - I just couldn't resist):-)

[Daz]

Skin this wombat :

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=7247

... piano roll and graphical drum pattern editor, maybe it's new flagship

{later edit} it can't edit Programs in Song Mode, just like the Oasys LOL

[Kevin Nolan]

Stunning -

This is significant. Korg, through M3Expanded and DS10 are definitely stepping into, and hearlding, a new era of realtime playing/sequencing though the screen interface.

This is significant because in this regard it's beyond current DAW capabilities. OASYS really does need this to complete the 'paradigm' across their range capable of this.

Looks like all of the repeated demands for imporved workstation sequencer capabilities echoed on this forum over the past few years were being read afterall! It's not unreasonable to think that the many threads and repeated calls for these features on the wishlist contrinuted to both M3Expanded and DS10. OASYS really did help pave the way for the future of the workstation after all!!

Kevin.

[Davidb]

The business game can be played many ways, and there is always more than one correct answer. What I think is a viable strategy, and what I would simultaneously really like to see from a customers pespective, is a strong OASYS OS 2.0 in the current hardware, new ad campaign and a new round of reviews from the major magazines and e-zines.

Totally true.

Korg did this with the Trinity V3 (3.0) and with the Triton Studio V2 (2.0) with new ad campaings, which generated a lot of new reviews, interviews and spotlight in the music media. They had a great succes in both cases.

[curvebender]

Korg did this with the Trinity V3 (3.0) and with the Triton Studio V2 (2.0) with new ad campaings, which generated a lot of new reviews, interviews and spotlight in the music media. They had a great succes in both cases.

I'm a bit surprised there haven't been any ads (that I've seen anyway) that emphasise the fact that the Oasys now has seven DIFFERENT synthesis engines, effectively making it 7 synths in one!! (Ok, nine if you count wave sequencing and vector synthesis.)

I mean, since the introduction a total of four EXi:s have been released. Surely this would make a difference for those who read about it when it was released and thought that HD-1, AL-1 and CX-3 wasn't THAT much to write home about..

[sirCombatWombat]

I'm a bit surprised there haven't been any ads (that I've seen anyway) that emphasise the fact that the Oasys now has seven DIFFERENT synthesis engines, effectively making it 7 synths in one!! (Ok, nine if you count wave sequencing and vector synthesis.)

I mean, since the introduction a total of four EXi:s have been released. Surely this would make a difference for those who read about it when it was released and thought that HD-1, AL-1 and CX-3 wasn't THAT much to write home about..

Advertising is very expensive, I guess (um.. hope) they are waiting for the v.2.0 OS.

[Daz]

I'm a bit surprised there haven't been any ads (that I've seen anyway) that emphasise the fact that the Oasys now has seven DIFFERENT synthesis engines, effectively making it 7 synths in one!! (Ok, nine if you count wave sequencing and vector synthesis.)

Along the same lines, I was surprised SOS never did a piece on the MOD-7. In fact I don't remember seeing much press about it at all.

[Stralner]

I'm a bit surprised there haven't been any ads (that I've seen anyway) that emphasise the fact that the Oasys now has seven DIFFERENT synthesis engines, effectively making it 7 synths in one!! (Ok, nine if you count wave sequencing and vector synthesis.)

Along the same lines, I was surprised SOS never did a piece on the MOD-7. In fact I don't remember seeing much press about it at all.

This is a general problem, also here in Denmark. I have called all the main distributors to update there oasys information, and they have, but they chould have done this them selfs.

Many of the salesguy´s have no idea of what the O is... I think they are holding back because of the price of it. To bad, many has this kind of money ( I Denmark anyway).

But, this upgrade for the M3 has set back Oasys in general, no one will by it at this time, since they are afraid it will soon be out of produktion.
I know a few anyway. If it is not, then Korg needs to tell people.

A major update is needed to save Oasys now. The difference between Oasys and M3 compared to the price is to little. By the m3 a virus, a V-synth. and a legasy vst. plugin and you get much more for your money now. Thats what most are thinking. Only you can not have it all in the same setup...so you can still save money, and that a big argument for most pepole.

Im sorry Korg, but you need to do something!

I do not have any interests in Korg other than I Love the Oasys, so I can say it from my hart: You will kill the with this silence.

[Davidb]

This is a general problem, also here in Denmark. I have called all the main distributors to update there oasys information, and they have, but they chould have done this them selfs.

Many of the salesguy´s have no idea of what the O is... I think they are holding back because of the price of it. To bad, many has this kind of money ( I Denmark anyway).

True also, what you say about stores and salesman.
Moths ago I went to a music store around my area, and theres was a guy there asking for synths. He asked the salesman (a reputed Korg seller) and he told him the OASYS has 3 synth engines (namely HD-1, AL-1 and CX-3) Imagine the scene: How happy I was to be able to tell the guy the actual state of the art regarding the OASYS palttform, and how bad the salesmen stared at me while I was doing so...

But, this upgrade for the M3 has set back Oasys in general, no one will buy it at this time, since they are afraid it will soon be out of produktion.
I know a few anyway. If it is not, then Korg needs to tell people.

A major update is needed to save Oasys now. ...
Im sorry Korg, but you need to do something! ...

I expressed myself along those lines in other post.
This M3 OS might affect the public perception of the OASYS, as well as its sales, IMHO. Korg needs to adress this, maybe telling somthig about the O future, or somethig like that.

Advertising is very expensive, I guess (um.. hope) they are waiting for the v.2.0 OS.

As you say, lets hope so.

They can, as they did in the past with other 2.0 updates for other models, have a campaing that no needs to be so expensive: no ads in the well know music mags, but press notes sent to the media about the (um.. hope ) new v2.0 OS features, as well as aleborated info about current seven synth models the OASYS have now.

Even if a v.2.0 EXpanded OS for the OASYS never sees the light of day, something like this will at least help retailers and salesmen to know what the OASYS is today, and will show public in general that the OASYS is still alive.

[Daz]

... no one will by it at this time, since they are afraid it will soon be out of produktion.

I agree.

The difference between Oasys and M3 compared to the price is to little.

I can't understand how anyone could think that, the differences are still immense. I don't agree

By the m3 a virus, a V-synth. and a legasy vst. plugin and you get much more for your money now.

I can't agree with that, there are a bunch qualities and features of the Oasys that setup doesn't bring. However I can imagine that some folks would see it that way.

You will kill the with this silence.

I do agree with this. In fact, I rather think this already happened.

[curvebender]

You will kill the with this silence.

I do agree with this. In fact, I rather think this already happened.

What do you mean Daz? That the Oasys project has been killed, or that the general publics view of the Oasys has been killed?..

[Daz]

I'm a bit surprised there haven't been any ads (that I've seen anyway) that emphasise the fact that the Oasys now has seven DIFFERENT synthesis engines, effectively making it 7 synths in one!! (Ok, nine if you count wave sequencing and vector synthesis.)

I mean, since the introduction a total of four EXi:s have been released. Surely this would make a difference for those who read about it when it was released and thought that HD-1, AL-1 and CX-3 wasn't THAT much to write home about..

I absolutely agree with you. I think the "profile" of the users we have here and at KLF seems to reflect that. To me it's a mega synth, that rivals and surpasses many of today's dedicated synths (hard or soft). I am surprised that honey hasn't attracted more bees.

[Daz]

You will kill the with this silence.

I do agree with this. In fact, I rather think this already happened.

What do you mean Daz? That the Oasys project has been killed, or that the general publics view of the Oasys has been killed?..

Korg's policy of not commenting on future plans makes a lot of sense for a lot of what they do, but for the Oasys where part of what you're buying into is the future (and it's promoted that way!), I don't personally think it was the best approach. 1 year after the last update and with companies like Sweetwater telling us the 76 is gone, the silence is bound to cause concern.

Daz.

[curvebender]

Is it time for a "Are you concerned"-poll?..

Not sure what good such a poll would do, but I must say I'm curious as to what fellow Oasys owners think about the current state of affairs.