Outputs ???

[Ricky]

The OASYS has lots of outputs!

Now I need some of them, but I can't make them do what I want.

I'm doing a live recording with my band.
I need to route my sounds to the PA system (the L/R Outputs), and then I want to route some timbres of a combi to e.g. Output 3/4 and other timbres to 1/2.
That way I've got the opportunity to mix my individual sounds later in a studio, if something is out of balance.

It means I need the output from one timbre to go through L/R AND 1/2 and the output from another timbre through L/R AND 3/4, of course within the same combi!

I need alle the effect both in the recording and in the PA system.

Is it possible to do this on the Oasys, and if so... HOW????

[cello]

I can't see a way to keep the effects amd route to other outputs - but I'm a noob myself so maybe someone else can chime in.

But to get a particular timbre/prog in a combi to go to a different output, in your Combi go to IFX tab and select Routing 1.

Under each prog used you'll see a drop down from which you can select 1/2, 3/4, etc (amongst many others). Select which sound has to go where but as I say I think you'll lose the effects that related to that sound... :-/

Anyone else know how to do it?

[Ricky]

Thanx for your reply Cello.

I know the Routing-thing in the IFX Tab.
Not only will I loose the effects, but it also seems like I can't have the same sounds on both the L/R-outputs and some of the other outputs at the same time.

[SoulBe]

Hi Ricky,

I had a similar question

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... highlight=

after all I have to copy the TFX/MFX into spare IFX places to have all the effects on say 1/2 when routing different timbres to individual outputs.

Regards
SoulBe

[Mike Conway]

I need the output from one timbre to go through L/R AND 1/2 and the output from another timbre through L/R AND 3/4, of course within the same combi!

It can be done, but you need to copy your Combi into the Sequence mode.

1. Select your Combi

2. Hold down ENTER and the REC/WRITE buttons.

3. In the pop up box, select OK.


Of course, you don't actually want to record with the sequencer. When it starts clicking, press the REC/WRITE button again to stop it. Your Combi is now replicated in the Sequencer and can be used like a Combi.

On the screen, you may see a bunch of red REC tabs. If this is the case, you want these to be in PLAY mode, so uncheck the MULTI REC checkbox in the upper right of the screen.


ROUTING SOUNDS:

I'm going to use a simple example of a piano and a guitar. There are two ways to do this - route post-effect, or pre-effect. I'll cover post.

In my example, the piano is routed to IFX1 Piano Body/Damper, which is chained (checkboxed) into IFX2 Stereo Graphic 7EQ.

My Steel Guitar is routed to IFX3 Bass Amp Model, which is chained to IFX4 Multitap Cho/Delay 4 taps.


1. Press the IFX tab.

2. Press the INSERT FX button.

3. Next to IFX2 change the BUS SEL. from L/R to 1/2. Your piano (along with IFX 1 & 2) is going to outputs 1 and 2.

4. Next to IFX4 change the BUS SEL. to 3/4. Your guitar is going to outputs 3 and 4.


To hear in L/R:

5. Press the PLAY/REC tab to show main tabs, again.

6. Press AUDIO TRACK MIXER tab.

7. Check the MULTI REC box in upper right screen.

8. Check the first four red PLAY tabs (1 - 4) until they say REC.

9. Right above those tabs, set the REC SOURCE arrows to INDIV. 1 for the first track, INDIV. 2 for the second track, INDIV. 3 for the third track and INDIV. 4 for the fourth track.

10. Pan your tracks, accordingly (1 left, 2 right, 3 left, 4 right). You can now hear the sounds assigned to the 1 - 4 outputs in your L/R bus.


You can only have 4 audio tracks active at once, but you can assign several sounds, from the INSERT FX page, to 1/2 or 3/4.


If you don't care to process individual sounds, I'm assuming you know about having dual L/R outputs? To do so, press the GLOBAL button - BASIC tab - AUDIO tab. In the upper right of the screen, you will see LR BUS INDIV. ASSIGN. touch the arrow to add a second pair of outputs.

[slinger]

Hi SouldBe - read your post - can we get a bit more information with an example, how chaining would be set up and how to copy MFX and or TFX into the final IFX. Something like the first timbre with 123-IFX with the copied MFX into 4IFX and routed into 1/2. Then say 125-IFX for the second timbre with the MFX copied into IFX6 inot 3/4. Also when you set it up like this does it still sound right through L/R?

The really sad thing about the manual is that it has lots of incorrect page references and zero best practice examples. One of the reasons that this technology kind of fizzled, with all the hype on capability simple routing should be - well simple, or at least well demonstated for correct procedures and best practices. Any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks - Slinger.

[SoulBe]

Hi Slinger,

I do it exactly like described:

First I decide, which sound to come out L/R or 1/2 or 3/4. Then I copy the sound/timbre, which comes out L/R with the copy function into the combi. This let you chose to import ifx all used, mfx and tfx and karma.
Let´s say it uses ifx 1,2 and 3 and is routed through mfx and tfx to L/R.

Next step is the second sound/Timbre. I copy it into the combi and chose all ifx used, so the ifx´s of the program lets say two more, are put to ifx 4 and 5. Now I go to the ifx tab, chose ifx 6 and copy the mfx to the ifx slot and chain ifx 5 to 6 and then I route it to 1/2 and so so on.

You have to tweak the ifx because sometimes it does not sound exactly the same when you copy a mfx to ifx because of the effekt routings and wet/dry balances, but with a little programming it fits.

Hope that helps.

Regards SoulBe

[slinger]

Sorry to be thick but this is still a bit confusing - I am starting with a combi and as you know most every routed voice goes to L/R. So I copy from one combi into another? Can yu provide the process as a complete example with say drum and bass from an existing combi with drums into 1/2 and bass into 3/4? After I have seen an example I will post how to do this with a complete combi and screen shots then it will be interesting to get feedback. From what you described I thought you would take the combi and copy the MFX and/or TFX into the last IFX into the chain and reroute (which I do not know how to do and is not clearly described in the manual). Do you just look at the effect that is applied to either MFX or TFX and add it to IFX manually? How do you copy the setting from MFX into the last IFX and what are the typical adjustments that you have to make? thanks for helping me through this - there is not much info anywhere and the 8 outputs suggested reading by Mike Conway that came up in search off site is no longer on this forum. When I finally get this figured out I will post the entire process for the best way to use the outputs. If you could go through it in a bit more detail, for instance exactly how you get an MFX setting into the end of the IFX chain and typical balance tweaking, it would really help. thanks again - slinger.

[SoulBe]

Hi,

as far as I know you cannot reroute an ifx to upper ifx´s, it´s only possible to route an ifx into the following ifx´s.

From the scratch I chose a blank combination.
Then I press the tab in the upper right sreen and chose "copy from program". in the popup you can chose the program, the destination and the effects to be copied. In this example I chose a bass program and "ifx all used". If you chose mfx or tfx here it is copied into the mfx/tfx section of the combie. I chose bass I-A 006 for timbre 1. if you now push the ifx tab in the combie you find the 3 ifx of the program beeing copied to ifx 1-3. on the ifx page you push the tab in the upper right of the screen and chose "copy insert effect". There you chose the program (I-A 006) and the effect you want to copy (here Mfx 2) and the destination ifx 4.
The press the insert ifx tab and chain ifx 2 to ifx4 and route on the right side "bus sel" to 1/2 or whatever desired.
There is no general advise how to tweak the ifx´s to make it sound like the original program It depends on the effects.
Then you start with the next sound from beginning and route to 3/4 etc.

Regards SoulBe