Hi.... I just bought a Kp3 off craigslist on thursday of last week (second week of the year...) it may have been a very bad move ...
My KP3 looks like its in prestine condition. however the auto BPM button does not work or at least I cant figure how to turn it on... and I have to press shift 8 to change the BPM...
can nyone help?
KP3 Auto BPM doesnt work
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loadfaster
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Shift 8 turns Ext. Control mode on/off. Do you have an SD Card inserted? If so, it could have the settings saved to autoload on startup (an all data 0.KPA file). You might actually be lucky that the other owner thought he broke it, because nothing works like you would expect in Ext. Control mode, in which the pad becomes a midi controller.
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OhioBuckeye
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More likely the issue is as I found out and as the manual states it will often choose a BPM that is 1/2 or 2/3 of the correct BPM and you must manually hit the tap tempo button to correct it.
Which for me I'll take the MIDI option. The other is just too unreliable and doesn't change if I change tempo quickly. The Midi Auto option instantly updates from my testing.
OB
Which for me I'll take the MIDI option. The other is just too unreliable and doesn't change if I change tempo quickly. The Midi Auto option instantly updates from my testing.
OB
His problem was stated to be that he couldn't turn on the AutoBPM function without press [shift][8] first, which is the Ext. CTRL command. The problem is not that AutoBPM is not working as expected and picking up the wrong beat. The problem is that the KP3 starts up in Ext. CTRL mode.
By the way, Auto BPM is pretty much worthless, particularly if you have the option of MIDI sync, which sets the BPM perfectly. Auto BPM is a hopeless task with some music where the signal doesn't have well defined beats in the signal level that can be distinguished from everything else. So it might work when you've got 4 to the floor and everything else below the kick level. Even IF Auto BPM detects a BPM close to what it detects, it still won't be in SYNC with it. To SYNC, you need Midi Timing Events.
The problem with Auto BPM isn't really the fault of the KP3 or KP Quad. The concept is hopelessly flawed. You can't do it accurately even with the most powerful computer and DAW signal processing, at least not with some human assistance. I've tried it in Pro Tools and other DAW packages, and detecting the BPM still requires a human to recognize what part of the signal is really the beat. Without human help, the software will lose the beat at some point very soon.
Imagine a drummer who has trouble keeping consistent timing. You could have different timing between each beat, therefore a different implied BPM. Keeping in sync with the beat requires musicians who adjust their timing to what they hear, and that's tough even when you can discriminate the kick from everything else.
By the way, Auto BPM is pretty much worthless, particularly if you have the option of MIDI sync, which sets the BPM perfectly. Auto BPM is a hopeless task with some music where the signal doesn't have well defined beats in the signal level that can be distinguished from everything else. So it might work when you've got 4 to the floor and everything else below the kick level. Even IF Auto BPM detects a BPM close to what it detects, it still won't be in SYNC with it. To SYNC, you need Midi Timing Events.
The problem with Auto BPM isn't really the fault of the KP3 or KP Quad. The concept is hopelessly flawed. You can't do it accurately even with the most powerful computer and DAW signal processing, at least not with some human assistance. I've tried it in Pro Tools and other DAW packages, and detecting the BPM still requires a human to recognize what part of the signal is really the beat. Without human help, the software will lose the beat at some point very soon.
Imagine a drummer who has trouble keeping consistent timing. You could have different timing between each beat, therefore a different implied BPM. Keeping in sync with the beat requires musicians who adjust their timing to what they hear, and that's tough even when you can discriminate the kick from everything else.