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Rob Sherratt wrote: There are different modes you can use depending on your needs. There is a performance mode that stores the current state the keyboard is in, however this has limited ability to manage VSTi's as they are external programs. So you can use the performance mode to control the state of Giga files, Arranger modes and all the core internal features. If you want deeper control over the VSTi's then you have a Program mode in every HOST that can recall entire setups of VSTi's. Each host can recall upwards of 128 different setups.
So do I get this right ... The performance mode is like a "combination" where I can put different "programs" - Giga files, Vsti´s etc. - together and this can be switched via midi? Just to clear this for me because it is what live gigging people would need.

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No, it’s a snap shot of the current state of everything running on the rack unit at that moment in time. COMBI mode is different in that it’s limited to only recalling your sounds.

The HOST Programs are then an additional function by where each host can recall up to 128 different configurations of VSTi’s or setups of external devices connected to the rack.

So in a live situation you have 3 choices to choose from. COMBi mode to recall your sounds, Performance mode to recall everysingle bit of software you want to run for the song your about to play, or VSTi HOST Program mode to only recall a specific configuration of VSTi’s.

Which you use depends on your needs, but with all 3 every possible situation you can think of is covered.

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Ok, thanks for this information.

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@ rob.

I am seeing this, but can't read extensively. I have a professional deadline in 10 days and can't FOCUS on anything serious, just chatting around non-committal.

Keep me in the loop, after march 1st I'll open the Lionstracs dossier.

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Rob Sherratt wrote:Here is the email correspondence Sharp (James) was referring to. He and I were conferring to make sure we got the most up to date information together before replying.

>Will NI Komplete 7 be supported?

Yes ... and ... No.

We do not "support" 3rd party software, NI support their own software.

We expect Komplete 7 will work on our system just like all the other VSTi's we have tested. We post regular updfates on VSTi testing on the Lionstracs forum. Also Sharp is providing integration with the internals of the Groove X-R for all tested VSTi's, so that sound patch names etc are available to other modules e.g. QRANGER.

Meanwhile, tell us at the time of purchase what VSTi's you want to load on your Groove X-R, and purchase conditionally on that basis. Then if those VSTi's do not work, we will either fix the problem for you, with 1:1 support via a SKYPE video session, or we will refund your money and you can return the unit to us.

>Can you load more vst's at once?

Yes, there are 10 VSTi HOST engines, all running simultaneously in their own virtual desktop window (ten of them) and each engine can load a large number of VSTi's all at the same time. The only limitation on the system processing of VSTi's is CPU / RAM. Note that the limitations you encounter in Windoze unable to run VSTI's in parallel do not occur on our system.

>Can you split them?

Yes, you can even connect multiple keyboard controllers and have different VSTi's going to different keyboards if you like. Or even have HOST 1 dedicated to one keyboard, and HOST 2 dedicated to another. It's like having more than one Rack Unit at the same time and the HOSTs will all work totally independent of each other. Also you can assign different VSTis to different tracks in the QRANGER sequencer/ loop generator.

>Can you change program via midi?

Yes of course! One great thing is that we support unlimited MIDI USB interfaces to many different external devices and controllers, so the number of different MIDI channels is actually more than 1000. A bit different from other products that only support 16 MIDI channels eh?

>Can you sand midi program change?

Yes, access HOST 9 and 10 and they are already setup for you to behave like a Controller for external Devices. Also you can map any of the external MIDi devices/ MIDI channels onto the internal controllable synth engines and VSTi's. You can actually have as many as 60 or more different synth engines running simultaneously if you like. so long as you do not overlopad the processor.

> Does it have any ''set list'' mode, where do you save your programs and then change them.

There are different modes you can use depending on your needs. There is a performance mode that stores the current state the keyboard is in, however this has limited ability to manage VSTi's as they are external programs. So you can use the performance mode to control the state of Giga files, Arranger modes and all the core internal features. If you want deeper control over the VSTi's then you have a Program mode in every HOST that can recall entire setups of VSTi's. Each host can recall upwards of 128 different setups.
Yep pretty much the same capability as the MS series and OS 4.5..Good info for those folks maybe wanting to add the rack, or move to the Groove Keyboard as James has.

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LIONSTRACS wrote:On Tour and Musikmesse you will see also this one...
http://www.lionstracs.com/guest/bluthner/stage1.jpg
http://www.lionstracs.com/guest/bluthner/stage2.JPG
Our stand on Musikmesse is on 5.0 A28
In case anyone missed the point in what Domenico just said,
The new Bluthner Electric/Stage Grand Piano uses Lionstracs Groove X-R
hardware and software as its sound synthesis engine. It is running the exact
same core software that is on the Groove X-R, just different samples ...
Bluthner piano samples in fact !!

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The new press release documentation pack that will be given out at Musikmesse will be printed this week. It contains a full specification of the Groove X-R, screen shots etc. If you would like a copy of the PDF file, then please send me an e-mail by clicking the e-mail link below. If you would like a free postal copy of the glossy printed version, (it is 3 A4 pages on gloss card, trifolded) then please provide me with your postal address.

Note: I cannot accept requests sent using the PM button on this forum, because I have no way of replying with the attached PDF file. E-mail requests only please.
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Hi Rob
thanks for pointing my message..
maybe with this picture they can believe much more...
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Here also the Tour list of the new Bluthner Digital Streaming Piano:
http://www.lionstracs.com/guest/bluthne ... igital.pdf
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Rob Sherratt wrote:The new press release documentation pack that will be given out at Musikmesse will be printed this week. It contains a full specification of the Groove X-R, screen shots etc. If you would like a copy of the PDF file, then please send me an e-mail by clicking the e-mail link below.

Hi Rob,
where is the link?
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P.S. That particular model (last photo) is the first and only example of its kind ... it was put together using the well-tried method of ... err ... rapid prototyping! Bluthner are of course producing production engineered units at the moment, ready for Musikmesse. The internal electronics is the Groove X-R hardware and OS, shown in the photo above.
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Assyrianpianist wrote:Hi Rob,
where is the link?
It is the button below every message I post on this forum, entitled "email" :D
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Rob Sherratt wrote:
Assyrianpianist wrote:Hi Rob,
where is the link?
It is the button below every message I post on this forum, entitled "email" :D
duh!!! my bad.
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This is all getting exciting!! I for one cannot wait for the launch at MusikMesse!

I reckon the Groove Rack will be the real star at the show, and will get the music world buzzing. Pro-studio and gigging muso alike..

Not long now :)

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I am pleased to announce that with effect today, Sharp and I have become a main dealer for Akai, Alesis and Numark products. Our main focus will be to provide complete, fully supported solutions to English speaking musicians, using the Lionstracs Groove XR at the core.

We are now able to offer special "bundled deals" to customers of the Groove XR, for combinations that include any Alesis speaker system, any Akai keyboard or controller, and a Groove XR. We will offer full support for the complete range of Akai keyboards and controllers when used with a Groove XR, and this means out of the box configurations that allow you to make music on day one, instead of spending several weeks working out how to program the damned thing!

Click the email button below to contact me.

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