New: Groove Synth/ Arranger rack - Musikmesse launch

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:18 pm

AFG Music wrote:
Sharp wrote: I think you misunderstand. Public Beta testing, as in just uploading the OS for anyone to download it is not a good idea. When it's done in private in can be controlled so people like yourself can part of the that beta testing, and talk with others who are also advanced users.

Sharp.

now is clear, and i agree with this.

you're right, this is very good.what did you think about a Bug tracking system?

So beta testers can have a list of all known bugs reported. advanced user (beta testers) can see the buglist before they start reporting a bug.

"East West Studios" hs one of those Bug Tracking systems for Beta users. I've been Beta testing for them for a while now, and everytime I want to report a bug, I can see if anybody else has come up with the glitch as well. They also let you upload screenshots of error messages.

Aside from this, do you guys know why Domenico has made it soooooo hard for a user to download anything? The Link i'm suppose to click on, it's still not there. It reads "processing"!!! This is just not cool. Why does he have to authorize even downloading a manual. Supposedly this link is about to expire tomorrow, so then I'll have to "reorder" again. lol

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:27 am

Some promises, within the remit of Corcyra Global (i.e. the Groove XR) to deliver:

a) defect tracking system will go live on Corcyra Global web site the same day the first Groove XR's are sent to customers. This defect tracker will not be visible to non-customers, because I do not believe in doing our laundry in public.

b) every customer of a Groove XR will have a customer privilege login to the Corcyra Global web site which gives single click access to all software downloads and the defect reporting system.

c) updates to all software included with Groove XR will be available to customers on the web site free of charge, and there will be a full release note and installation guide with each release.

I regret that Corcyra Global's commercial contract with Lionstracs currently extends only to the Groove XR, and customers purchasing the keyboard based Groove X6 or X7 or Mediastation must request whoever sold them those products to provide support. Corcyra Global and it's regional distributors will have to sell very significant numbers of Groove XR before we can consider a wider remit.

Corcyra Global have also signed contracts and distribution/ resale arrangements with certain 3rd party companies, and the arrangements we have in place extend only to the software bundle that is provided on the Groove XR. We cannot provide the software to people who have not purchased a Groove XR.

Having said that, the user forum at the Corcyra Global web site will be open to Groove XR customers and non customers and we will do our best to provide help to anyone using the same version OS that is delivered with the Groove XR.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:18 am

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:55 pm

I would like to announce the launch of our new web site and user forum for the Lionstracs Groove XR. Anyone is welcome to register for a forum account, there is an email validation to reduce spammers, that is all. Then you can post to the forums etc, ask questions.

http://corcyraglobal.com/

The web site and user forum are under rapid development and change at the moment. As soon as we are finished at Musikmesse we will launch a nice flash animated header zone, and many more pictures of the Groove XR.

My thanks especially to miden (Dennis) for your help with setting up the user forum, and to sharp (James) for your help with the upper flash area of the web site (to come shortly).

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:30 am

So James, basically...i still have my original Collossus too after the upgrade
to Goliath...i can just install it right? Keep in mind its based on the old NI
Player and not Play2...i hope it works...

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:43 am

BasariStudios wrote:So James, basically...i still have my original Collossus too after the upgrade
to Goliath...i can just install it right? Keep in mind its based on the old NI
Player and not Play2...i hope it works...

Yes.
It's the same registration system is FM7 & 8 and they all run just fine.

Regards
Sharp.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:28 pm

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:49 pm

Well this is quite an interesting find that will certainly see me exploring this in much more depth.

To make a long story short, I was doing work for a KORG Pa1X owner last night in the Studio and he showed great interest in the Groove X6 I had in the Studio which was loaded with the X-R Rack sounds.

I've no idea why I decided to do this since I was able to demo the X-R sounds on the X6, but I connected the X6 to the Pa1X and by pure accident or just good luck, I started a style playing back before I modified his GLOBAL settings in order to make the X-R sound only work for the Right hand only.

To our surprise the X-R sounds instantly jumped to all the right sounds used in the style and played back in harmony with the Pa1X, and istsounded bloody fantastic. I really mean... WOW, the Pa1X sounded huge as the X-R sounds ran and played every part of the style the same time along side the Pa1X styles. We selected a number of different styles and for the most part I didn't have to change a single thing.

At most, the only thing I needed to do when we explored custom styles was to change the Drum Track status from BOTH to INT on a very small number of styles and even at that we could save this setting into the style which did not effect the Pa1X at all weather the X-R sounds were connected or not.

So to put this quite simply, by connecting the X-R directly to a Pa1X, the sound was massive and the additional sounds playing along with the Pa1X styles seriously added a wonderful additional layer to the Pa1X sounds by default.

Doing nothing other than just connecting a midi cable gave me at least 90% flawless comparability on anything we tested.

I really need to get a video demo of this online for people to see. It's an arranger users dream.

Regards
Sharp

worth · Post by **worth** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:55 pm

definately do that sharp !!!

miden · Post by **miden** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:04 pm

Yes James that makes it very interesting. Perhaps I will have less work to do in setting up mapping for the PA2x as well. Particularly as I want to target VST sound patches with it and NOT Giga sounds (as good as they are!).

The mapping for the iPad will be a little trickier I suspect, but its another project I will be undertaking and contributing to the Groove community.

Dennis

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:52 am

There will be a video interview featuring the Groove XR, posted at www.sonicstate.com this weekend.

P.S> my feet are killing me after standing and demoing the Groove XR all day for the last 4 days.

Post by **Sharp** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:08 pm

Well, it's not an offical demo but at least you can see the Rack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h6QNdseohs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLXOoFsSZCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNH8L6aROU

Regards
Sharp.

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:58 am

Sharp wrote:Well, it's not an offical demo but at least you can see the Rack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h6QNdseohs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLXOoFsSZCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNH8L6aROU

Regards
Sharp.

Nice!!!! Great to you see you Rob. I know it was impossible to capture a cleaner sound with all the background noise going on, but still useful.

Question: so there's 4 buttons on the front panel, and each represent a different desktop with different plug ins, right? If so, then you need to have 4 different external midi controllers to access them all? Is it possible to have all 4 desktops in action without using any external controller?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:39 am

Hi Sam,

The answer is that with ten external keyboards you can play ten different sounds or ten different plug-ins simultaneously.

You can also play a Combi which mixes eight different sounds or plug-ins.

And you can play a Qranger file which has unlimited track playing capability, subject only to processor power.

The front panel is a simplified Operating system to make it really easy to use the Groove XR in playback mode in a gig without having an external VDU plugged in. The simplified OS allows you to control everything you might want to do with a single keyboard, including selecting either an 8 layer multi-split-zone Combi, or any sampled synthesis sound or any sound from any plug-in.

In general, you can not control or assign sounds to multiple keyboards using only the front panel OS, the full GUI is required for that because the user needs to access the JACK connection manager GUI. The Virgin organ is a 3-keyboard variant of the Groove X workstations and uses the identical OS to the Groove XR.

The four buttons you refer to on the Groove XR are a multi-way selector for single keyboard operation. The buttons access different patch manager menus, including sampled synth, plug-in and Combi menus. The menu modes are mutually exclusive and only one button of the four remains lit at any one time, green or red, giving one choice from up to 8 choices.

So, for creation of new sounds or backings, or editing of Combi sounds or for setting up complex MIDI / audio patchbay routings, you must use the full GUI interface from a VDU that connects directly to the back of the Groove XR.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:08 am

Hi everyone on this thread,

I am building up the Groove XR user forum content at the new site http://corcyraglobal.com and I have a question for each of you.

Would you give me your permission to copy your posts from here to the new user forum, especially into the Q&A section? I will credit each of you with authorship

Also in future could you add information/ Q&A onto the new Groove XR forum instead of this thread?

Thanks!