How to use up the Oasys credit?

dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:50 am

So my Kronos arrived today and I figured I'd go buy some of the sound libraries using the credit that Korg gave me for having originally bought optional software for the Oasys.

However, when I went to take a look at the libraries, there's only about $70 worth of libraries that are actually available (and the drum ones are not of interest to me). My credits are worth $750 and expire at the end of March 2012 so here I am with all these promises that will expire worthless unless Korg comes out with a LOT of new stuff very quickly.

Not that I'm not appreciative of being offered the credit....it was definitely a nice gesture that helped with my decision, but now that I've seen what's actually there, it's looking less thrilling....

Hmmm

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:24 am

The actual sample libraries are supposed to be much more expensive but won't be released until OS 1.5 is, most likely at the end of this month.

I don't think the current libraries offer any new samples, just more presets with the built-in ROM.

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:27 am

You probably won't see any sample based libraries available, until OS 1.5 launches (anytime now). Also, those credits will only be good for about 3 EXs (sample based) libraries, as the price for each was reported to be $249. Along with the Karo sample sets, there should be plenty to choose from before the end of March.

I don't have a Kronos, but I also have those credits and would like to use them, if the opportunity to get one pans out.

billysynth1 · Post by **billysynth1** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:29 am

Well we all have our different interests in instruments, i've also got 750 of credits, i've picked up the first to libraries available. I'll just take them as they come...they will probably have something of interest at NAMM for the kronos.

Billy

RonF · Post by **RonF** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:02 pm

I'm in the same boat. Just be patient. Even if Korg were for some reason slow in getting these products to the table, I am quite sure they would extend the expiration date of the credit if fairness and prudence warranted it. Korg is not about to dangle a false carrot to it customers.

dhjdhj · Post by **dhjdhj** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:15 pm

I'm cool with that --- it's just that when I went to look and discovered there was nothing there, I started to wonder.

cello · Post by **cello** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:58 pm

I'm still hoping that Korg considers the notion of allowing the $750 credit to be used against the purchase price of a Kronos.

Without having a Kronos, the credit is of no value.

RonF · Post by **RonF** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:24 pm

cello wrote:
Without having a Kronos, the credit is of no value.

But that is the exact objective and point of the promotion! To incentivize you to spring for a new Kronos.

cello · Post by **cello** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:49 pm

RonF wrote:
cello wrote:
Without having a Kronos, the credit is of no value.
But that is the exact objective and point of the promotion! To incentivize you to spring for a new Kronos.

lol! That may be the objective but it is not the value!

Having an OASYS, I see little benefit in moving to the Kronos (other than it is supported). So, at full price, I won't get one.

If the credits can be used against the purchase of Kronos, then I shall get one (just the 61 though - no room for anything bigger!).

apex · Post by **apex** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:05 pm

cello wrote:I'm still hoping that Korg considers the notion of allowing the $750 credit to be used against the purchase price of a Kronos.

Without having a Kronos, the credit is of no value.

but you can already get a Kronos for $750 off the listed price...

so what's the difference in Korg saying hey... "yeah take $750 of the listed price" $3799-$750 (in discounts)...

or you just going to a company and purchasing a Kronos on your own for $3200-$3300?

There is no real difference... IS THERE????!?!?!?!?!?

So just "act like" Korg is the one giving you a discount and buy you one then use discounts they've offered on the sample set/packages that they have offered.

You're crazy if you think that you're gonna get the same discount that everyone else is getting on their Kronos AND get the $750 off too...

Make sense?

RonF · Post by **RonF** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:14 pm

cello wrote:
lol! That may be the objective but it is not the value!

Having an OASYS, I see little benefit in moving to the Kronos (other than it is supported). So, at full price, I won't get one.

If the credits can be used against the purchase of Kronos, then I shall get one (just the 61 though - no room for anything bigger!).

Don't get me wrong, cello, I completely understand your position and reasoning....but I just don't believe its where Korg is coming from with this incentive.

Its a pretty basic marketing campaign...its called a "loss leader". As an Oasys owner....you are not a potential buyer of Kronos libraries whatsoever. So it costs Korg *nothing* to offer you a credit for Kronos libraries. The worst thing that can happen for Korg in this scenario is that you will spring for a Kronos, which for them is FULL PRICE....since the unit cost which the retailer pays is fixed. Its the margin over unit cost which typically varies in a sale or discount...either way Korg gets paid!

Anyways....if you then end up getting some free software libraries after you have sprung for a Kronos.....no big deal, because they hooked you into buying the hardware (which was the actual objective of the campaign), and the libraries: 1. you were not a potential buyer in the first place anyways. and 2. Libraries have no ongoing manufacturing cost, once they are made, they are essentially on tap for Korg to sell with little additional investment (sans any license fees there may be).

All in all...I think you wish for something that is unlikely to happen.

apex · Post by **apex** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:20 pm

cello wrote:
RonF wrote:
cello wrote:
Without having a Kronos, the credit is of no value.
But that is the exact objective and point of the promotion! To incentivize you to spring for a new Kronos.
lol! That may be the objective but it is not the value!

Having an OASYS, I see little benefit in moving to the Kronos (other than it is supported). So, at full price, I won't get one.

If the credits can be used against the purchase of Kronos, then I shall get one (just the 61 though - no room for anything bigger!).

and honestly... if you don't see the value in moving to the Kronos (since you have an Oasys) then what difference is $750? really... ?

It seems like more to complain about than anything... If you have an Oasys and don't see the value in the Kronos is $750 really going to make you buy one? I don't think so... cause like I said in my above post... people are getting Kronos for pretty good prices (steep discounts)... I got mine for $2999... that's almost $800 off of list price. So if $750 was that important/that much of a deal breaker for you, you would have had a Kronos a while back...

of course, that's if you're not planning on getting the steep discount that most people are getting AND THEN using the discount direct from Korg.

(most of the times... coupons don't apply to sale prices. There are instances where they do, but most of the time you use coupons off of full price (at least where I'm from)

cello · Post by **cello** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:00 am

Fair comments Apex and RonF

I see where you're coming from, truly.

Although, if I'm honest, I think I'll wait 5 years (probably less) and get the Kronos 2. I'll buy the kronos sound libraries with the credit on the assumption that the K2 will be backward compatible, as the Kronos is with the OASYS PCGs etc.

Trying to be as objective as possible, it seems to me that with the OASYS Korg went 'too high' (screen, price, build quality, etc). With the Kronos, they went 'too low' (screen size, price, build quality, keyboard issues, etc).

Both these experiences will be 'lessons learned' for Korg and they will put that combined experience into their next flagship, Kronos 2, which is probably in development right now (although maybe just conceptual). When that's released, I'll jump on board

DennyC · Post by **DennyC** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:29 pm

Cello, I was hoping you would bite the bullet for the Kronos. I would like to bit the bullet for a JP80 and a Kurzweil...but only one problem, lack of available funds and I don't want to owe a large balance on my credit cards.

cello · Post by **cello** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:34 pm

DennyC wrote:Cello, I was hoping you would bite the bullet for the Kronos. I would like to bit the bullet for a JP80 and a Kurzweil...but only one problem, lack of available funds and I don't want to owe a large balance on my credit cards.

Indeed - funds are the issue for me too! My dear wife has just announced she's pregnant so there goes any hope of a new keyboard any time soon!

But I can hardly complain having an OASYS, Radias and a Jupiter 80! They are all musical marvels (in their own very different ways) and I'm just going to have to accept that I miss out on a generation; Kronos 2 will be the one I get