DS-1H HALF DAMPER PEDAL

spaceman3 · Post by **spaceman3** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:08 am

Is it worth switching out my standard sustain pedal for a half damper pedal like the KORG DS-1H?
Thanks for any info on this.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:00 am

Not only possible but recommended. Don't forget to calibrate it in the global menu after hooking it up.

nowtime · Post by **nowtime** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:27 pm

Is this useful for sounds other than piano?

benny ray · Post by **benny ray** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:14 pm

I think personally if you play alot of piano on the Kronos you man be able to tell the difference but otherwise nah. On a real piano you can tell the difference but in a live situation using the Kronos that would be up to your ears. I play alot of classical at home not with the band but i do not use a half damper pedal. I think if you are advanced pianist and really can hear the difference then go for it otherwise its not a deal breaker. I can hear the difference in a real piano but the keyboards not so much for me playing live. I have considered one myself and may get one later but for now my band does not do that much piano stuff where it would be of any value to me. If you ears can actually hear the difference get one otherwise just wait and take your time on it.

spaceman3 · Post by **spaceman3** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:53 pm

Went ahead and ordered the DS-1H.
I figure even if the difference is subtle,It still might add something in my playing.
If not, then i guess at least i will have the best pedal for my KRONOS. lol.
Thanks for the info everyone.

Ottawa58 · Post by **Ottawa58** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:34 pm

I will probably order one once my K88 arrives. I play a lot of classical.

Once you get it, and have it calibrated, let us know what you think!

pedro5 · Post by **pedro5** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:41 am

spaceman3

You've probably read other recent posts about pedals etc.
As a suggestion…the existing pedal can be used in the switch socket (if nothing else plugged into it) and be assigned for Sostenuto use.
Using both in conjunction can produce rewarding results…..not only for piano,but for other voices as well,especially strings etc.

Forgive my repeats,but I'm so enthused about these pedals....

Best Wishes.

HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:12 pm

nowtime wrote:Is this useful for sounds other than piano?

Absolutely. And not just for half-dampering (sustain). The pedal is a continuous controller rather than just a switch. The half-damper pedal sends out controller values in the full range of 0 - 127 (depending on calibration), just like a knob or a slider. Whereas a standard damper pedal will switch between two values (eg 0 for OFF, 64 for ON -- or maybe it's 63 and 127, I'm not sure). Because Damper is one of your AMS sources, you can modulate any number of things in your programs/combis.

So you could, for instance, assign the Damper AMS to modulate filter frequency, activated with your foot on the damper pedal, or to modulate an effect setting, like wah-wah stuff.

Niarf · Post by **Niarf** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:35 pm

I just received the DS1H, and wow what a difference between the Roland Dp10 ! Although this one is continuous, I think that the values sent are not good for the Kronos, impossible to get the half damping (midi values in Midi OX was strange). With the Ds1H, I did achieve this straight away =)

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:02 pm

Yes, the DP10 won't do correct half damping. You need to turn it to switch mode and use it as a normal damper.

Glad you're enjoying it!

Niarf · Post by **Niarf** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:09 pm

Even if I turn it continuous or switch, the problem was the same : wrong values =)

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:35 pm

That's weird cause I'm using mine live in switch mode without problems

Niarf · Post by **Niarf** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:25 pm

It works, but not for half damping correctly =)

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:25 pm

Ah yeah, that's why I said it only works in switch mode. Half damping always needs a CC.

Rich Z · Post by **Rich Z** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:49 pm

Well, OK, I bought one of these DS-1H pedals and honestly, I'm not seeing all that much difference between it and a regular on/off damper pedal. I've done the "calibration", such that it is, and noted that some programs will have the enable switch set to off, which I changed, but the transition from being full off to full on is extremely non-linear. If it were displayed on a graph it would be more like an 80 degree angle, if that, compared to the 90 degree angle engagement of a standard on/off damper pedal.

But maybe it's NOT supposed to be linear? Maybe "half damper" is more literal than i expected? Maybe it's just a 3 part transition from (1) Off, (2) half dampened, then (3) full dampened? I've even tried holding the DS-1H in my hand and it is a very sharp transition from off to on, even though I can hear a slight dampening effect right before it goes full dampened. Backing off of the pedal I can hear a sharp drop off of the ringing of the notes, instead of anything gradual.

So am I overlooking something or doing the calibration incorrectly? I've tried pressing and releasing the pedal both slowly, and quickly, but didn't see any difference. Is there something I am overlooking to control the slope of engagement to make it more linear? Otherwise I think I just wasted $50 on this thing, as it's not THAT much different from the plain vanilla dampener I got with the Kraft Music bundle with my K.

Can I put a multimeter across the plug rings and check for resistance values or something to see if the pedal itself might be defective? Seems like a lot of people really like this pedal, but I'm just not seeing it with mine.

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