Beep sound coming from my KRONOS when playing piano sounds.

AntonySharmman · Post by **AntonySharmman** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:50 pm

This is not a beep this is over-resonance result of low mid frequencies in filter , this do not sound like a German or
Japanese Kronos piano but rather like a custom poor & fake piano !
Anyway since you do not really know how to edit a sound it's better to open factory PCG (Preload.PCG) and
reload all factory Programs and if its important open your custom.PCG and load only your custom combinations !

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:52 pm

Yes, the beep is happening on factory preload as well, but not all pianos, only Kronos, and German ones.

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:57 pm

Actually my friend, i need to load in everything even all new sounds, because my combinations use my custom sounds which are not from the keyboard. Thats why i cant only load the combinations. By the way, the problem still happens on these pianos even when i load in the factory preload.PCG file...

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:01 pm

bazic wrote:Actually my friend, i need to load in everything even all new sounds, becausey combinations use custom sounds which are not from the keyboard. Thats why i cant only load the combinations. By the way, the problem still happens on these pianos even when i load in the factory preload.PCG file...

you will likely get better advice if you provide more exact information.

Tell us your K model, how old, what 3rd party samples you added or removed.

When the stuttering resonance ( thats not a beep) problem 1st occurred, what exactly did you do if anything to your K prior to the 1st occurrence.

If that is too much work, your alternative is to take it to service.

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:03 pm

And what do you mean by fake pianos sounds.. I mean, i loaded the factory preload.PCG file, opened the Kronos, and german pianos, and the problem is still there...

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:18 pm

Okay i bought this Kronos 2 motnhs ago, and my friend came to my house to help me program it a bit, because he has a kronos as well. He gave me his set, which has hundreds of new sounds. So he told me that i would lose some sounds in exchange of having the new ones i need for this specific type of music we are playing. So okay he loaded in the set and everything,and i noticed that i only had like 5 piano sounds i could use, that is Kronos, German, Ferrant and two more. Ok so these pianos worked fine until like 4 days ago, i started noticing the wierd sound. It was after this one gig i had. I thought it was a hardware thing because i carried it around to practice etc. But, after testing stuff i saw that it was softwares fault (as i explained earlier, the transpose thing gave it away)...
So here I am asking for help if anyone knows what it could be. What i have tried so far is:
-Reloading my custom set which my friend gave to me.
-Loading in the Factory Preload.PCG to see if the weird sound goes away, but it doesnt on these pianos.
-I tried adjusting some parameters but no luck
If you need anything else please ask and i will write.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:44 pm

bazic wrote:Okay i bought this Kronos 2 motnhs ago, and my friend came to my house to help me program it a bit, because he has a kronos as well. He gave me his set, which has hundreds of new sounds. So he told me that i would lose some sounds in exchange of having the new ones i need for this specific type of music we are playing. So okay he loaded in the set and everything,and i noticed that i only had like 5 piano sounds i could use, that is Kronos, German, Ferrant and two more. Ok so these pianos worked fine until like 4 days ago, i started noticing the wierd sound. It was after this one gig i had. I thought it was a hardware thing because i carried it around to practice etc. But, after testing stuff i saw that it was softwares fault (as i explained earlier, the transpose thing gave it away)...
So here I am asking for help if anyone knows what it could be. What i have tried so far is:
-Reloading my custom set which my friend gave to me.
-Loading in the Factory Preload.PCG to see if the weird sound goes away, but it doesnt on these pianos.
-I tried adjusting some parameters but no luck
If you need anything else please ask and i will write.

now , after 3 pages, we are making some progress.

Did you notice that the stuttering resonance occurs on B4 ?

Correct ?

That might be worth pointing out if B4 is the only stacatto
stuttering key. Or only stuttering note

Clarify

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:53 pm

The key that it happens on is B2, when its on default octave, when you press to go one octave lower, than it occurs on B3, so its definitely not physical key problem.. I would say that the tone is problem rather than the key, if you know what i mean.
Btw you might be correct when you say B4, but im looking at it as B2 because my kronos is a 61 key version.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:30 pm

bazic wrote:The key that it happens on is B2, when its on default octave, when you press to go one octave lower, than it occurs on B3, so its definitely not physical key problem.. I would say that the tone is problem rather than the key, if you know what i mean.
Btw you might be correct when you say B4, but im looking at it as B2 because my kronos is a 61 key version.

might as well have a picky piano lesson

In terms of 88 key standard convention, that note is B3 ( i am going by my flawed memory of your recording)

So , on an 88, the lowest B note is mapped to B0. Count up from there.

I am guessing your 61 and all 61 keyboards, its still B3. If not, that would be very confusing. Because a standard is a rule. Its not ' it depends ' on the amount of keys on your keyboard.

It would be nice if someone more knowledgeable can confirm this.

I believe details are important, especially with our Kronos , so we can solve
problems , even online, in some cases.

Anyway, if I understand your last post. Its the sampled B note for the German Grand, thats the culprit.

Before we jump around to the next step, We will wait for your next confirming post.

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:35 pm

You are right, i wrote the comment in a hurry and wasnt really thinking. In terms of 88 key, the key that is making the problem is B3
My bad sorry

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:37 pm

And yes, this one sampled B tone is making the problem.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:56 pm

bazic wrote:And yes, this one sampled B tone is making the problem.

and once again, I think details are important. You did not mention details about your friend's Kronos and his ' custom PCG file you loaded. And you saved it correct ? It over wrote your banks, correct ? You did a 'save all ' correct ?

It would not be a surprise that your friends K and your K does not match 100%.

I think you attempted to reload your factory PCG and nothing happened.
Did you SAVE it to your SSD ?

IF that is accurate , you might have to to a file reinstall from the DVD's

Lets see if anyone else has the time to read thru all this and arrive at that conclusion .

And you have to decide if your friends Custom PCG is more wonderful and worth the messed up German grand piano sampled B note. My guess work is his
PCG is the culprit and if so, don't use the darn file.

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:03 pm

The thing is, i have been using his set with his PCG, KSC, SNG and stuff for last 2 months, ever since i bought the keyboard, yet the problem only started happening 4 days ago? So i wouldnt think that the problem was in his set, since it was working for me for the last 2 months. And yea, i put his PCG to load everytime i turn on the kronos. And yes i did save it, it does override kronos default banks.. Also i did save his folder with his PCG and other files on kronoses harddrive.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:04 pm

bazic wrote:The thing is, i have been using his set with his PCG, KSC, SNG and stuff for last 2 months, ever since i bought the keyboard, yet the problem only started happening 4 days ago? So i wouldnt think that the problem was in his set, since it was working for me for the last 2 months. And yea, i put his PCG to load everytime i turn on the kronos. And yes i did save it, it does override kronos default banks.. Also i did save his folder with his PCG and other files on kronoses harddrive.

you still did not give us details on your friends K. If you don't know, you should ask him. I am not a fan of loading/saving any old PCG file off the Internet just because its free and/or I had time to kill.

I don't recall you mentioning what you did to your K 4-5 days ago, or what you did to it prior to the staccato note problem. For example, did you save programs, add new sample libs. Did you load/save another PCG. Did you have a gig, rehearsal. Try to recall that day of or before.

experiment with Global/basic . velocity curve 1-9 settings. And experiment with after touch.

See if that defeats or effects the stuttering.

bazic · Post by **bazic** » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:19 pm

I only know that his kronos looks same as mine, the lastest kronos version that is.. I know that he didnt get i randomly from internet, and i will update you when i mess around with settings a bit.. Btw, what do you think about installing the kronos all over again from the disk?