Creative destruction and why we should care

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GregC
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Creative destruction and why we should care

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There are numerous forces at work that will/or might ' disrupt ' the fundamental way we do things.

What we do here is to advance our connection to the Kronos and the Kronos community. We are truly enjoying participating and enjoying the benefits of technology in this great keyboard.

I recently got concerned about Longevity (+20 yrs ), stability and possible disruptive forces that might impact my passion for SONG writing and music creation. The advice and knowledge posted from Kronos owners was impressive.

Should we understand certain challenges in a broader sense ? Which is why I thought of Steve Jobs and his ' creative destruction ' mantra.

Forgive this somewhat of a puff piece for Apple but the thoughts/decisions of powerful individuals commanding tremendous resources should be considered:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marketshar ... 7ed2a1531c

I think many here just accept technology, all its ' creative disruption ' as being the price of ' progress'.

Being a skeptic of large corporations, I also see ' creative destruction ' as a marketing technique to sell the promise of new products.

Notice this very important word "promise ". I personally do not enjoy effectively being a beta tester or spending numerous hours, and days , trying to solve 'puzzles ' to embrace a product utilizing technology.

There you have the debate. I don't mind being called an old Luddite :)
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Post by pete.m »

I'm a sceptic, too. 'Creative destruction' and, formerly (but not used much these days) 'planned obsolescence' keep the money rolling in.
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Post by runningman67 »

There is an old fashioned word. Satisfied.

We are sold a lie every time we switch on the TV. We don't 'need' most of what is shown, whether an advertisement or the news. We are sold things as things we are told we 'need'.

To make us need things, they tell us that the old food we ate is now bad for us, the fuel for our cars is now the wrong fuel. Our operating systems stop supporting our software.
Digital synths should now be analogue and on it goes.

The thing is the system is broken. The world needs us to never be satisfied, otherwise the oil in the machine 'money and debt' will not flow through the banks and into the 1% of the pockets of the population that gorge on our feeble attempts to feed ourselves and look after our families and spend whatever is left on the next thing we 'need'.
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Post by spaceman3 »

I know my comments are sort of off topic. (sorry)
This subject is part of the reason why i love KRONOS.
Its almost like KORG made KRONOS so self sustaining that you dont always have to update drivers for it to keep going.
You dont need other stuff to go with it to make it work.
KRONOS isnt a quick disposable product, and that doesnt fit the business model that companys are increasingly taking.
In a world where computer technology is advancing so quick, a software or other product becomes outdated before we can even figure out everything said product can do.
I know the workstation is dead or on the way out.
Companys selling great workstations are probably biting into the software disposable aspect of where music is heading. (not enough profit)
Companys that make workstation synths can make more money selling alot of software or little gadgets, compared to a few hardware workstations.
To anyone that loves workstation synths.
Hold on to them for dear life.
Because i think KRONOS is the last of the synth workstations.
I hope i am wrong and we see a new workstation from KORG, or any company in the near future.
But with the inexpensiveness of software and the way things are going, workstation synthesizers are likely dead.
Its okay tho.
Thats progress. :lol:
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If I remember correctly, "creative destruction" was a phrase taken from Schumpeter, because of the idea in economics of capital (including capital goods) being repurposed. An example would be demolishing an old building to build a better one in its place.

It doesn't JUST mean disruption in the tech field (of which Apple did less than Jobs tried to tell the world it did, but that's another topic).
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Post by jones »

spaceman3 wrote: But with the inexpensiveness of software and the way things are going, workstation synthesizers are likely dead.
Its okay tho.
Thats progress. :lol:
True enough, software is very good but the kronos is in a class of its own.
The past 2 yrs I've only used my kronos as a controller but still won't give it up, its like driving a mercedes , once you get a taste you don't want to let it go.

Couple weeks ago I decided to try the sequencer with vocals and guitar plugged in, it wasn't that hard to lay some trax down , so I'll be keeping it.

THe integrated all in one box feature is vital.

Kronos + a good software synth is the bee's knee's.
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Post by GregC »

Koekepan wrote:If I remember correctly, "creative destruction" was a phrase taken from Schumpeter, because of the idea in economics of capital (including capital goods) being repurposed. An example would be demolishing an old building to build a better one in its place.

It doesn't JUST mean disruption in the tech field (of which Apple did less than Jobs tried to tell the world it did, but that's another topic).
Right. Thats in the article:

"More recently, the Austrian economist Joseph Schumpeter put forth the theory of creative destruction. According to Schumpeter, the process of companies rising and falling would unleash innovation and in the end make the economy stronger. Schumpeter identified these cycles of creation and destruction as being the primary growth drivers in capitalist economies.

We have had many occasions to revisit and recall Schumpeter’s theory over the last 20 years. We saw IBM give way to Microsoft and now see Microsoft ceding ground to Google. We have seen the humble digital download carve vast swathes into the audio CD industry. And, we might take it for granted today, but it is only very recently that the companies who survived the dot-com bust changed the way we communicate with others, book travel plans and buy products."
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