Any plans to make the Oasys a USB midi controller??

coucou · Post by **coucou** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:40 pm

I think it would be great!. I love tha action of the oasys and its velocity curves, but I don't use it to track midi to PT as it loses a lot timing accuracy over the midi cable / midi interface.

I would love to see an update to allow me use the Oasys as a USB midi keyboard.

Rob

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:28 pm

I don't think it's possible to do this - it does not have the correct USB socket(?)

I use my OASYS over MIDI cable via MOTU MIDITimePieceAV to other synths, logic and various software instruments and notice no time delays when playing the keyboard.

Kevin.

sirCombatWombat · Post by **sirCombatWombat** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:44 am

Kevin, I have been considering the MOTU Midi Express XT as I don't need the video sync features of the Timepiece AV. Does the Timepiece AV offer funtionality over the XT that would be handy in a synth only setup? The Express XT has midi routing capabilities that I'm especially interested in, as I have several midi controllers that I wish to use with several synths.

Sorry about the OT, I didn't think this was worth a separate thread.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:24 pm

coucou wrote:I think it would be great!. I love tha action of the oasys and its velocity curves, but I don't use it to track midi to PT as it loses a lot timing accuracy over the midi cable / midi interface.

I would love to see an update to allow me use the Oasys as a USB midi keyboard.

Rob

This is the first time I've read that USB would be superior to MIDI for timing. I doubt that this is the case; USB generally has issues with both latency and jitter. If I understand correctly, time-stamping USB MIDI interfaces, such as those from MOTU and Digidesign, were created partially to overcome these USB issues.

- Dan

coucou · Post by **coucou** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:32 pm

I have no idea of technical issues but i can assure you that the midi recorded from my Novation SL Remote 61 to PT is much more accurate in terms of timing than anything I record from my Oasys to PT through either any of the 2 Edirol midi interfaces i have.

Something different is that I hate the velocity curves of the Novation and I love those from the Oasys. I love as well the Karma but the problem is that recording in PT non quantized melodies from the Oasys through an external midi interface makes me feel that I am losing part of the feeling of my melodies!. I am sure a USB midi interface builtin the Oasys would save this problem to me.

Rob

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:35 pm

coucou wrote:I have no idea of technical issues but i can assure you that the midi recorded from my Novation SL Remote 61 to PT is much more accurate in terms of timing than anything I record from my Oasys to PT through either any of the 2 Edirol midi interfaces i have.

I'd suggest trying another MIDI interface, then. I have no timing problems with any of my controllers through my MOTU interfaces.

- Dan

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:42 pm

Another thought: you might also wish to isolate your MIDI interfaces to a single USB bus, so that they don't have to fight for bandwidth with any other devices.

coucou · Post by **coucou** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:46 pm

Dan,

Thanks. So Can I know exactly which model of midi interface are you using?

Rob

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:55 pm

coucou wrote:Dan,

Thanks. So Can I know exactly which model of midi interface are you using?

Rob

I'm using a MOTU MTP/AV USB, networked to an older MTP/AV.

If I understand correctly, you're using ProTools, so it might also make sense to look into Digidesign's MIDI interfaces, which support time-stamping when used with ProTools software.

- Dan

milkojnr · Post by **milkojnr** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:03 am

I use a Digidesign Midi I/O. With my Protools HD 2 Rig and I have also used one on a Digi003 rig and it worked great.

I also found the older Emagic ATM8 and Unitor 8 mkII to be excellent on OSX anyway.

TagPass · Post by **TagPass** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:53 pm

I've always had rock-solid timing with any of the 8-channel interfaces I've used over the years -- Unitor 8s, Midisports, and my current one, the Edirol UM-880. Sadly, no one seems to be making 8 channel interfaces anymore, but the Edirol has been the absolute best of the bunch, and I'm able to drive my entire MIDI rig and do all my DAW stuff with the Oasys as the main MIDI controller. No lag whatsoever.

coucou · Post by **coucou** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:47 pm

I am very surprised at your answers mates!. I am using UM880, and another small edirol interface on OSX, had the AMT8. I am not happy with any of them and found the AMT8 the worst by far but i just used them in MACOS9!. My mdi interfaces have been always isolated to one only bus.

I find a huge difference when playing a sequence within the Oasys and when I play the same sequence exported in a midi file from PTHD or Logic.

What brand of midi cables are you using? How long are your midi cables? Mine are very short, less than 1 meter.

Rob

Pilgrim · Post by **Pilgrim** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:03 pm

coucou wrote:I have no idea of technical issues but i can assure you that the midi recorded from my Novation SL Remote 61 to PT is much more accurate in terms of timing than anything I record from my Oasys to PT through either any of the 2 Edirol midi interfaces i have.

Something different is that I hate the velocity curves of the Novation and I love those from the Oasys. I love as well the Karma but the problem is that recording in PT non quantized melodies from the Oasys through an external midi interface makes me feel that I am losing part of the feeling of my melodies!. I am sure a USB midi interface builtin the Oasys would save this problem to me.

Rob

Audio latency. . .

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