New Song using my samples

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New Song using my samples

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Jaming with my samples on my kronos 61.
http://soundcloud.com/newsounds4kronos/ ... t-for-korg
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Jürgen
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Post by Jürgen »

Thats fine
and why I did not sample this great?!
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Post by Newsounds4kronos »

Thanks Jürgen,
I did not sample it straight into kronos lol ....That would have been a nightmare, used cubase instead and for the piano only the white keys were sampled.
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Post by jimknopf »

Your samples take a ridiculous amount of space (900 Mb according to your soundcloud text) just for a few sounds, like 4 layers of a CP50/70 plus some other not so much needed stuff. And as you said, you even sampled only the white keys. For comparison: a famous 12-layer Rhodes sounds (which are much more demanding than CP70 sounds) with single samples for each key doesn't even use a third of that space! So the space you used seems to indicate that you used an automated sample recording tool instead of proper sampling.

Why would anyone want to spend more than 100Mb of Sample RAM maximum to get a simple CP50/70 sound, or be interested in a weird package of assorted sounds not really needed on a Kronos??? And by the way, the Roland ARX-03 brass sounds aren't better than the onboard Kronos brass sounds (including those on SSD) IMHO (I woned a Fantom G and the ARX-03 before the Kronos). :wink:

Nice recording, but no convincing sampling package from my view: the only samples really needed on a Kronos from that, are better CP70 samples than those in the Kronos GM set from my view.
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Post by Newsounds4kronos »

Thanks jimknopf,

I agree with you about the size. It is actually 849 megabytes and definitely not small.
The reason I wanted to have this sounds on my kronos so badly was to save our backs (my casual rodie and myself lol) from carrying 3-4 keyboards to ours shows. Not mentioning how timing consuming it gets at sound checking and also to avoid disappointments when a venues don’t have enough channels or a mono PA. So cutting a long story short, the samples had to be done properly in order to convince our musical director to let us breath for once :lol: , and it worked.

As to the famous 12-layer Rhodes from Yamaha (Chick Corea) being only 400MB, I do not agree with you.
This library has been converted into their exclusive WXC compression, totally different case.
For instance check out Neo-Soul Keys for Yamaha Motif XF by Jamal Hartwell. A 500mb (wave samples) a scaled down version from Kontakt as the producer had no access to their exclusive compression. So definitely not a 12 layer library, but stil fantastic library that I would love to have on Kronos one day. I am a big Fan of Jamal, he is a music genius.

When it comes to pianos samples it will take way more than 100mb regardless. For instance the brass sounds are 135mb and if kronos has a better brass section than the ones heard on my demo.... than I really missed something and wasted my time :shock: ................not .
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Post by rmvieira »

I didn't do a 1 to 1 comparison between the standard Kronos brass and your samples but I think the sample brass was convincing enough at least for your style of song/music. Good job!
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Post by Chriskk »

Your samples sound good.

I don't understand the criticism of the sample size. It's your Kronos; whether samples take up 1MB or 1GB, it's your call as long as you are happy with the result.
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Post by cyrusrua »

Is your cp70 available? I'm desperate for a good one on the Kronos.
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Post by Newsounds4kronos »

Cheers cyrusrua,
Yes but it is 496MB of cp50 alone ... so depending on what you already have on your ram you may not be able to run it without unloading stuff. Anyway pm if that would suits you.
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