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how to layer or program like this
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:49 pm
by keyboardist06
hi kronos user, i have a question, how do i layer or program a sounds like these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ZXjb3r4_k
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:26 pm
by ed_f
Create combi with the piano and strings. Assign the pedal to the volume of the strings only.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:30 pm
by SanderXpander
Or rather, tell the combi to NOT send the pedal to the piano.
In Global, set the pedal to "expression" (CC#11)
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:48 pm
by keyboardist06
thank you,. how about the piano with hammond?
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:45 am
by ed_f
Same idea really - you can route CCs all around as you need them - or you could just use the first one as a template and just change the second timbre to be organ instead of strings.
The main difference here is you need to copy in the control surface information from your organ program to set up the sliders (or do it yourself manually) - and set your Control Surface Timbre to T02
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:05 am
by rs.felicio
If you don't use a pedal.......you can use the " karma scenes" to set 4 midi channels....on the same Combi you can use piano, strings, organ and lead. And set each scenes for your proposal...for example:
A - Piano + strings
B - Piano + organ
C - organ + lead
D - All
..... Is very, very usefull...
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:20 am
by ed_f
rs.felicio wrote:If you don't use a pedal.......you can use the " karma scenes" to set 4 midi channels....on the same Combi you can use piano, strings, organ and lead. And set each scenes for your proposal...for example:
A - Piano + strings
B - Piano + organ
C - organ + lead
D - All
..... Is very, very usefull...
But if you watched the video the point of the pedal is to bring the secondary sound in and out as needed.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:38 am
by ronnfigg
Do what Sander said. It uses the "MIDI Filters" tab- and be sure you set the pedal in Global mode to "Expression" (CC# 11). I do this all the time. Works great!
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:03 am
by apex
does this type of use of expression still count against polyphony when you have the volume of the sound down? (just like using the fader?)
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:56 am
by SanderXpander
Of course.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:39 am
by rs.felicio
Friend.
I just tried to remember that we can improve this process by Karma....because we don't need to create two combis (one for Piano + Strings and other for Piano + Organ) and if you don't have a expression pedal, can be use the Karma Scenes to bring (and out) the secondary sound.. for example:
A - Only Piano
B - Piano + Strings
C - Piano + Strings + Organ
D - Strings + Organ
ed_f wrote:rs.felicio wrote:If you don't use a pedal.......you can use the " karma scenes" to set 4 midi channels....on the same Combi you can use piano, strings, organ and lead. And set each scenes for your proposal...for example:
A - Piano + strings
B - Piano + organ
C - organ + lead
D - All
..... Is very, very usefull...
But if you watched the video the point of the pedal is to bring the secondary sound in and out as needed.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:56 am
by SanderXpander
You are right of course, but the point of the video was to make stuff fade in and fade out naturally with the expression pedal. Not to just have sounds switch on and off.