ARP ODYSSEY now on Korg.com site!

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:55 am

It's just got mentioned...a tease really. Gotta wait till Jan 2015

http://www.korg.com/us/

http://www.arpsynth.com/en/

Sounds like a potential NAMM presentation.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:57 am

Great news - so the leaked pic was genuine

I just hope it's NOT a mini version & Behringer might as well give up now.

Jan1 · Post by **Jan1** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:29 pm

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/12/25/korg-arp-odyssey-coming-jan-22-2015/
The keys do not look like mini keys to me, so that is definitely a good thing.
I wonder about the price. If it's near or over $1000 it might just be a reason for Behringer to follow through with their plans.

Ksynth · Post by **Ksynth** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:22 pm

Why would Behringer give up?

They will eat Korg's lunch at 1/3 the Korg price most likely.

Competition is good for us in this case.

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:36 pm

They should have made this a virtuall analog kronos module, same as the kingkorg... Never understood why theystepped away from payed expansion modules withnew synthesis forms from the oasys

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:54 pm

This will be interesting, KORG vs Behringer.

Behringer is a huge company now with vast capability and experience. They now produce some of the best gear on the market due to fact they built their own manufacturing facilities in China and more importantly, they bought out a number of highly respected companies.

Midas, Harman, Teknik and more are all apart of Behringer now.

Should be interesting and there's nothing like a little competition.

Regards
Sharp

Jan1 · Post by **Jan1** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:17 pm

I wonder about the patent/copyright issue.
Surely you cannot just take a Yamaha or Roland synth of the past and reissue it at will without the permission of the company which used to make that synth?

Post by **Sharp** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:54 pm

Jan1 wrote:I wonder about the patent/copyright issue.
Surely you cannot just take a Yamaha or Roland synth of the past and reissue it at will without the permission of the company which used to make that synth?

Arp went bankrupt a very long time ago and were liquidated. So they don't own the rights to anything. I can't remember who bought the rights from the liquidators. I would have been still probably pooping in nappies back then it was so long ago.

Whoever owns the rights at this stage would probably grant rights to anyone handing over $$$. Likely without exclusivity in order to get as much return on their investment as possible at this stage.

Regards
Sharp.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:08 pm

I wonder, has something like this ever happened before, where two companies re-release the same synth?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:35 pm

Behringer won't call theirs "ARP Odyssey", they will call it differently. Korg has the rights to the ARP brand name, so they can use the actual name.

Also, seems like Behringer's replica will be different, offering multimode filters (LP/BP/HP), effects, full MIDI and USB, perhaps even patch memory? Korg's will be plain, no patch memory. So it's not exactly "the same synth", per se.

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:11 am

Sharp wrote:
Jan1 wrote:I wonder about the patent/copyright issue.
Surely you cannot just take a Yamaha or Roland synth of the past and reissue it at will without the permission of the company which used to make that synth?
Arp went bankrupt a very long time ago and were liquidated. So they don't own the rights to anything. I can't remember who bought the rights from the liquidators. I would have been still probably pooping in nappies back then it was so long ago.

Whoever owns the rights at this stage would probably grant rights to anyone handing over $$$. Likely without exclusivity in order to get as much return on their investment as possible at this stage.

Regards
Sharp.

Didn't Rhodes buy ARP, and Roland buy Rhodes?

The ARP Chroma became the Rhodes Chroma, and I believe at one stage Roland owned Rhodes and hence the MK-80 digital Rhodes piano released in the late '80s.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 am

It's been confirmed by Behringer that their version is full size, analogue - all circuitry copied from the original, not DSP based as I had feared

I know where my money's going - Let the battle commence!

Kevin Nolan wrote: Didn't Rhodes buy ARP, and Roland buy Rhodes?

As far as I can remember, CBS/Rhodes only bought the rights to the Chroma/Polaris, nothing else.

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:39 am

KORG will probably release a 100% authentic Synth faithfully reproduced.

Behringer will do the same, but with the added filters so that MK 1 to 3 is reproduced, and in addition to that, enhance it with Midi and Effects for a price lower than anything KORG would probably be able to do.

I fear KORG will be roasted alive on this one.

Regards
Sharp.

Jan1 · Post by **Jan1** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:26 pm

I have to say that I prefer the Behringer approach where the advantages of digital control and the resulting convenience is combined with the analog signal path, but then again we do not know the exact details of KORG's version yet.

I was wondering about the patent issue in order to get an idea of which synths might be feasible for Behringer to reissue.
Apparently the Odyssey is possible, but I imagine that for a reissue of for example a CS80, or a Jupiter, or a new version of a digital synth such as the VL1 Behringer would have to work out a deal with the companies which made those synthesizers.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:14 am

EvilDragon wrote:Also, seems like Behringer's replica will be different, offering multimode filters (LP/BP/HP)

They're incorporating all 3 original Oddy VCFs 4023, 4035 4075 - not multimode